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Schiavo Videotape Misleading, Experts Say
Reuters ^ | 3.23.05

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:08 PM PST by ambrose

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To: steenkeenbadges

Can you accept that there is distortion on both sides?


101 posted on 03/23/2005 3:05:35 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: k2blader

My opinion is that come the next round of elections this issue will have been forgotten by most people.


102 posted on 03/23/2005 3:06:19 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: tomahawk

WHo ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes?


103 posted on 03/23/2005 3:08:02 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

I'm curious--do you have any background with reading CT scans? I've seen the CT scan of Terri's brain, and while I can tell there's a big blank spot in the middle, I would never presume that I have the background or knowledge to say what that means.

It bothers me a great deal that Americans on both sides of the issue feel they can make independent judgments on Terri's state. Whether they judge based on a heavily-redacted videotape put out by Terri's Mom, or based on what Michael Schiavo says, it doesn't matter. The Good Lord made doctors for a reason and there is a tremendous amount of material out there, much of it sworn testimony, that is better than anything I can come up with.

I would hate to have any of our armchair neurosurgeons here diagnosing me in case I had an illness.


104 posted on 03/23/2005 3:08:51 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: monkeywrench
Michael is her guardian, like it or not. Even if she had never said she 'didn't want to live like that', he would still be able to make the decision.

We will never know whehther Terri said that or not. Are you married? Do you share things with your spouse that you don't share with your parents and siblings. We don't have living wills (yet), but we are both fully aware of what our spouse wants done.

105 posted on 03/23/2005 3:09:00 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify
Are you prepared to tell thousands, probably tens of thousands of people who have made the decision to withdraw nourishment for themselves or relatives that their actions weren't good or honorable?

Are your prepared for a court to order your execution by starvation based on someone's hearsay testimony for supposedly being a vegetable?

If you think for a second that what is happening is a GOOD thing, I would like for you to explain HOW it's good and honorable based of the circumstances of this case.

106 posted on 03/23/2005 3:09:04 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

I'm on your side here.

The strongest evidence is what is in the rehabilation records. Michael controls them.


107 posted on 03/23/2005 3:11:21 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
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To: Bellflower; Lady Eileen

You're Welcome. When I see a picture or video of Terri, I see a human being who is very much alive. Saddened by this case, depriving one of nutrition (food and water) is so very, very cruel


108 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:02 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: sirchtruth
There is nothing good or honorable in this case. This should have been settled amicably a long time ago. I can't tell you why that didn't happen. I will not need a court to 'order my execution' as you so delicately and inaccurately put it. My family is well aware of my wishes.

I. however am not prepared to see the law turned upside down over one tragic case.

109 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:22 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

This is so scary these judges are walking among us,ready to dispense with people as they wish.


110 posted on 03/23/2005 3:17:14 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: B Knotts
most famously Dr. Stephen Hawking

I guess somebody should have pulled the plug on Hawking way before he even got his PhD or thought about evaporating black holes, the big bang, and all that rot.

"I have had motor neurone disease for practically all my adult life. Yet it has not prevented me from having a very attractive family, and being successful in my work. This is thanks to the help I have received from Jane, my children, and a large number of other people and organisations. I have been lucky, that my condition has progressed more slowly than is often the case. But it shows that one need not lose hope. "
Stephen Hawking

Hawking has 3 children and a grandchild. He did not marry until after he was diagnosed with ALS. He didn't even meet his wife until about the time he was diagnosed.

I wonder if 10 years ago, Terri could have learned to work a voice synthesizer like his. It only requires him to move his eyes and/or press a single switch in his hand. If she could, I wonder what she'd say?

111 posted on 03/23/2005 3:18:53 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Trust but Verify
I. however am not prepared to see the law turned upside down over one tragic case.

Name the law that the courts are basing their decision on not to reinstate the feeding tube?

112 posted on 03/23/2005 3:19:21 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Trust but Verify

Yup. I'm trying very hard to steer clear of them this week. Bomb throwers.


113 posted on 03/23/2005 3:23:01 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: sirchtruth
How about the law passed in Washington last week that was thrown out by the appeals court panel and refused to be heard by the full court. And what about the stupid subpoena issued? Should we start issuing subpoena's to infant's? They could communicate their wishes as effectively as Terry Schiavo.

I guess what I'm saying is that unlike many people, I'm not willing to let the ends justify the means.

114 posted on 03/23/2005 3:25:35 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
I for one would like to see CAT/MRI scan to see if there really is any brain function

Not allowed by her nominal husband and the Judge.

115 posted on 03/23/2005 3:25:56 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: ambrose
Just posted over at NRO:
READ IT AND WEEP [K. J. Lopez]
A doctor who has seen Terri Schiavo says she's aware of what's going on, feels pain. This is painful.


116 posted on 03/23/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: AHerald

Thanks for that link. Very interesting. A Doctor who has evaluated Terri has reflected upon his diagnosis and decided that PVS does not describe Terri's condition.


117 posted on 03/23/2005 3:34:18 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

You're welcome. An eye-opening affidavit, to say the least. It should give genuine pause to those who've supported the tube removal on the basis of the PVS diagnosis.


118 posted on 03/23/2005 3:41:38 PM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5.36)
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To: AHerald

Thank You for posting the link.


119 posted on 03/23/2005 3:43:37 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: Trust but Verify
"Can you accept that there is distortion on both sides?

Yes. What I have trouble accepting is the fact that this is being portrayed as a "right to die" scenario (whatever that means), but Ms. Schiavo wasn't dying. Not even in the beginning of this whole ugly mess.

To err on the side of life is infinitely more likely to stand up under God's judgement than assuming something not really proven. It's like abortion in the "first trimester" (or second or third...). When I've asked pro-abortion women how they determine the exact moment that the first ends and the second begins, their response is shakey and evasive. So how do you determine exactly when an act's consequences become certain?

Besides, Bastardo Schiavo (sorry) has refused divorce, a million dollars and other "outs" to simply turn Terry over to the people who love her without limit. In the United States, we take care of our helpless. We don't toss them in the trash heap - especially when someone is stepping up to the plate to take complete responsibility.

120 posted on 03/23/2005 3:45:20 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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