Posted on 03/23/2005 9:01:53 AM PST by areafiftyone
Now I don't know if all of this is all true - but there are alot of Freepers who know more about this than I do.
There is something to starving and killing a woman in holy week. She suffers and dies because a judge ordered it to be carried out. Good Lord.
Perhaps the Pope could pronounce him anathema and excommunicate? If the Archbishop could do it to King Henry II, why not?
Yes.
I am getting more and more disenchanted with the GOP everyday.
Especially considering some of the 'conservative' comments I've read on here against protecting Terri.
I always thought that it was conservatives who were for protecting the 'sanctity of life', and the democrats who were the ones out for 'personal gain'.
I guess the line just gets more blurred as the years go by.
This is just exactly the nonsense that sets the Republican party back. The welfare of our society is directly proportional to the freedom we are allowed to possess. Why should you be able to claim economic freedom, if you do not allow people to claim personal freedom.
It is the joy that so many "conservatives" take in snuffing out everything they think is strange, freaky or weird that makes otherwise amiable people to the conservative moment go run in hide.
You social "conservatives" are nothing more than Marxists who believe in god.
In case you haven't read any of the writings of the founders of this, the greatest nation in history, it was founded to secure the blessing of liberty, not to be bridled by the yoke of yet another tyranny.
I will always err on the side of personal liberty. And in the Shiavo case, her personal liberty is being spit upon because it is more convenient to the soft sensibilities of people to think of her as a thing as opposed to a person.
The sphere is really (and should be) more narrow than that. A Husband can't force a wife to take or not take medicine. Medical care is each person's own individual decision. The law is supposed to operate on exactly this premise, and nothing more. If you take the time to read the legal papers, you will find a sharp focus on TERRI's wishes.
I think the court erred on the matter that TERRI wishes or wished to die by starvation. That is a factual inquiry.
My nomination for Free Republic post of the year. It certainly reveals something about this forum that I would never have guessed before the Schiavo case came up.
The woman was NOT dying until her feeding tube was REMOVED!
This fact trumps all other arguments on either side. An innocent woman is being put to death by her husband in the name of the law. Doesn't this bother you?
Didn't they give themselves at least 2 raises in 2004? Greedy pigs!
Hospice care is normally $80,000/year. Since this case has achieved such notoriety, the hospice has agreed to waive most of its costs for care. What this means in practice is that the expense will be passed on to other patients and indirectly to the government.
Medicaid pays for Terri's medications.
It's in today's Washington Post.
If they were married in the Church, they must obtain a civil divorce before applying for an annulment.
the polls are shifting, as more information seeps through the MSM filter, the polls will shift further. Most people being polled still think this is a woman in a coma on a respirator. Its the Dems who are concerned on this issue, normally they would be chortling if they had a 2:1 public opinion in their favor on any issue. But they aren't, why? It the SCOTUS refuses to get involved (likely outcome), there will be weeks of media coverage of her death as she is slowly starved. And this issue will point out the imperial nature of the judiciary.
I can't blame Congress and the president for not going into "constitutional crisis" mode to save her, they have done the right thing so far in making this attempt, it was a noble effort (win or lose).
If people think about this rationally, they'll realize that for most of us, the R's did the best they could; in certain cases, there is not much that can be done. Calling out the military was never an option, for example.
In a few months the D's will do something that'll rile everyone up, and those saying they'll never vote Republican again over this will realize how silly an emotional reaction that is, which in practical terms would only make things worse.
Sure, some will stick with the Libertarians and say they'll never vote for a Republican again, but I suspect those folks say that a lot of the time.
People are feeling this crime white-hot now. But before the election, even Libertarians like Boston talk host Jay Severin were saying they'd never support Bush because of some decision or other; most, when they think about it, realize a R is better than a D, and will skip the temper tantrum and vote for the better of the two choices. All it will take is some crisis, or the Dems being Dems again.
Feeding tubes are removed hundreds of times a day in this country. And for people who don't have living wills.
This was discussed on the floor of the House. Over 70% of the people in this country don't have Living Wills. And yet families remove patients from life support and feeding tubes every day. It happens all the time in nursing homes, too.
I agree wholeheartedly. This has caused me to remove the bumper sticker "Proud Republican" from my truck.
And change my tagline for the first time in a year.
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