[Jane_N]

Seems this story that was big news here on Free Republic just before the last election (Dutch documentary about Florin Krasniqi and weapon trafficking/KLA support to the Kerry campaign) has made it to 60 minutes finally!

[Izzy Dunne]

READER'S DIGEST CONDENSED VERSION:

Gun laws good; gun lobbies bad.

[MisterRepublican]

CBS News and 60 Minutes are not credible news sources.

[happinesswithoutpeace]

Dupe thread..

[Waco]

The main thing is to get as many citizens disarmed as possibile before the enemy gets here. ( Famous quote from Dec. 8, 1941!!)

[gdzla]

Good to know we can arm ourselves quickly if needs be.

[wita]

This story is full of deception, lies, half-truths, and emotional crap designed to get people like Chuck Shumer all het up to pass legislation against any honest citizen who wishes to own a fifty caliber rifle, or purchase any type of ammunition for it. Example: fifty caliber is weapon of choice. OK, all youse guys that want the weapon of choice are doomed to carry it, and the ammunition all by yourselves.

There is a recurring theme in the article that disturbs me deeply. If I am not mistaken, those purchasing said weapons might be related by the "religion of peace", a far more significant statistic than the number of fifty caliber weapons taken to Kosovo.

Wasn't the whole battle in Kosovo about Muslim terrorists attempting to take land by squatters rights so to speak, and thus gain themselves another country just because they could. I'm thinking if all that be true, then sixty minutes is off in left field where they have pretty much been from the beginning, focusing the narrow attention of the American people away from the real problem and helping to fix it so honest Americans will have a great deal of difficulty matching "government in firepower".

A situation brought on by more and more gun control and less and less government control of what government by the Constitution is supposed to be in control of. Since I cannot research my premise without sitting on this post for a half hour, I'll just throw caution to the wind, like 60 minutes, and throw my stuff out on the street and see if it floats.

[ops33]

The thing that bothers me is that articles such as this one make some gun laws seem so reasonable, so rational, that many citizens may think it is justified to ban this gun and that rifle. Surely getting rid of just this really bad rifle couldn't possibly harm anyone's Second Amendment Rights. The result is our Second Amendment rights get taken away incrementally, slowly whittled away until it is no longer there. A lot of people who do not own guns and have no desire to own a gun may think this is no big deal, just our constitution and society evolving. The only thing in my house that resembles a gun is my son's pellet rifle but if society can take away my Second Amendment rights then they can take away all my rights; free speech, freedom of religion, the right to vote and own property, etc. If we can lose one right we can lose all of them. That is the great danger of gun control laws even for citizens who don't own any gun.

[Northern Alliance]

This story was already posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367042/posts. I don't what the etiquette is - ask admin to pull the thread (?)

[DJ Taylor]

Now let me see if I can make any sense of this thread.

Problem: An Albanian (read Muslim) illegally enters our country, somehow gains American citizenship, uses his Second Amendment rights as an American citizen to purchase firearms and then illegally exports them. Now, this criminal openly boasts of his criminal activity, and CBS uses his criminal export of firearms as an excuse to attack the Second Amendment rights of all Americans.

Recommended Solution: This self confessed felon should be arrested, prosecuted and appropriately sentenced for his illegal entry into this country, violation of our firearms export laws, his ill-gotten American citizenship revoked, and after he serves time for his crimes he should be deported.

[ol painless]

"New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly had a sharpshooter fire the department’s own .30-caliber sniper rifle and the bullets bounced off a half-inch-thick plate of steel."

.30-06 AP ammo will blow through 1/2 inch steel plate with ease and will penetrate 7/8 inch steel.

As far as the .50 BMG goes, if they ban it somebody will come up with a .49 BMG or similar. In fact J. D. Jones already has. 14.5 mm JDJ

http://www.sskindustries.com/14.htm

[Falcon4.0]

I thought you had to be a citizen to purchase guns in all 50 States?

[The Great RJ]

I'm sure the terrorists are simply going into US gun shops and gun shows and arming themselves with everything from bazookas to howitzers. However, would a terrorist risk getting photographed by a surveillance camera...ubiquitous at any gun shop I've visited? Would they risk having their phony ID detected by a background check?

I think it far more likely that they are simply going to black market sources that are rampant in places like the Middle East and former Soviet states and getting whatever they need no questions asked. I'm expecting that 60 Minutes will probably gin up some photos and phony documents showing Bin Laden personally buying guns at a local Wal Mart.

[Sender]

I've often heard the VPC and the Brady bunch claim that Barrett Firearms "sold .50 rifles to Osama bin Laden". Let's clear up a few things.

One, Barrett Firearms sold rifles to the US Government. They were picked up in US Government trucks and shipped to US Government bases. How any may have ended up in the hands of Afghan "freedom fighters" or in Kosovo is anybody's guess. But to claim that terrorists are shopping US gun shows and stores is pure lunacy.

[Sender]

PS- I checked out an ex-Marine Barrett .50, still in desert camo with "US" stamped into the left side of the receiver yesterday. It's one of 112 rifles traded in by the Marines and now available for sale for $19,900 as a military collector's item.

Any terrorists or drug dealers who want a handy, 30-pound "pocket rocket" that is pretty beat up and used hard for a cool 20 large, email me and I'll tell you where it is.

[mbynack]

It seems to me that most of the terrorists that I've seen with small arms are carrying AK-47's, SKS's, and AK-74's. These come from the former Soviet Union, China, and North Korea.

I think 60 minutes misses the point. We need to secure the borders and keep the terrorists out, not disarm the potential victims.

[pythagorean]

Florin Krasniqi, the ethnic Albanian gun smuggler & terrorist group financier featured in this article, has also been a Democratic party financier and has contacts with Wesley Clark and Dick Holbrooke.

More info, including Krasniqi - Holbrooke - Clark footing, can be found in the Dutch-produced video documentary 'The Brooklyn Connection'. (Click on one of the "video" links. Except for the first minute or so, the documentary is in English)

[montyspython]

Was there any mention of Krasniqi by the locals at all? You said you were in Kosovo and just wondering if his name was uttered among the KLA command.