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Michigan bill would ban medical decisions if adultery is involved
AP ^ | 3/22/2005 | Amy F. Bailey

Posted on 03/22/2005 4:03:02 PM PST by Crackingham

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To: BedRock
I guess his religion condones adultery??? Come on, who puts any weight in what he says about divorce when he goes and does the second???

Perhaps his religion permits concubines.

61 posted on 03/22/2005 4:26:22 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Dog

Not at all. This is common sense. And this isn't about moralizing; it's about protecting an incapacitated person from a spouse whose interests are adverse.


62 posted on 03/22/2005 4:26:30 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

"In a situation where an incapacitated patient lives at the mercy of an adulterous spouse, it is in the patient's interest to make a presumption in favor of life."

A Democrat with the same principled statement as President Bush.

I too, see nothing stupid about it at all, BK - he is pointing out a CONFLICT OF INTEREST and doing it well.
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63 posted on 03/22/2005 4:27:30 PM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: Dog

Welcome to the club my dear.


64 posted on 03/22/2005 4:27:49 PM PST by Neets
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To: Neets

States rights, remember? Michigan is completely within their right to do this. It's not like it's the Federal Government doing it. What's the problem?


65 posted on 03/22/2005 4:27:50 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: cripplecreek
I do have a moral problem. I don't like the idea of starving to death but I also oppose euthanasia. See my problem?

Yes. You are not the only one struggling with this issue. When is it euthanasia and when is it simply wanting God's will to prevail. I don't have the answers.

66 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:03 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Crackingham
That he got to retain spousal rights is an abomination, given that his ability to not be considered an adulterer was based upon the fact that in her 'vegetative' state that part of the marriage contract was rendered null and void. Then when it came time to euthanize her, the contract was resurrected in full.

His acting in her best interest was compromised, and compromised by leaps and bounds.

As I said on another thread, he's lucky he didn't marry an Italian, because he would have been shown just who next of kin really was.

67 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:12 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: sodpoodle

Yep. I don't see why anyone would oppose this. It's common sense.


68 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:12 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: garybob
In the Schiavo case, with him living with Jodi Cenzone and fathering two children, proving adultery should be a no-brainer.

Right. It's a good rule tailor-made for the Schiavo case.

Which is basically why it would make for bad law.

If the law read "If your name is 'Michael Schiavo' you lose guardianship.." that would work even better for the Schiavo case. But they are going to have to apply this law to cases other than those which are like the Schiavo case. And that's where there would be headaches.

69 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:29 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: jwalsh07
Are they inalienable rights?

Since when did that ever matter to anyone in high office?

70 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: RightWhale
It's right there in that thicket. Bluetick Coondog

OK, now I see'um.

71 posted on 03/22/2005 4:28:47 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: B Knotts
it's about protecting an incapacitated person from a spouse whose interests are adverse. How would we know if the decisions a spouse is making are adverse? You don't know what people discuss in the privacy of their own homes.....

Who will make the final decision..a judge?

72 posted on 03/22/2005 4:29:45 PM PST by Dog
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To: Crackingham

How is adultery involved in a person being in a hospital?


73 posted on 03/22/2005 4:30:05 PM PST by HitmanLV
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To: BigSkyFreeper

OK, I'll give it to ya straight. Individuals have rights, state have powers. JMHO, acourse.


74 posted on 03/22/2005 4:30:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: sgtbono2002
This is great ,the government getting into the bedroom.

In one regard the Supreme Court recently kicked the State of Texas out of the bedroom.

Even if this is signed into law, it may not stand.

75 posted on 03/22/2005 4:31:37 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Dog

If a guy is shacking up with another woman, his interests are adverse to his ex-wife.

That this is not obvious to some is puzzling to me.


76 posted on 03/22/2005 4:32:13 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Servant of the 9

I expect you will get your wish. This nation is so ready to err on the side of death in just about any case.


77 posted on 03/22/2005 4:32:51 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: HitmanNY
There is the catch.

How would you enforce this law. To claim this the person you are trying to save is already in the hosptial and can be no help.

78 posted on 03/22/2005 4:33:19 PM PST by Dog
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To: Freebird Forever
Even if this is signed into law, it may not stand.

Why..why that would be the Federal Government getting involved in a state issue, I thought that was bad.

79 posted on 03/22/2005 4:33:19 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Dog Gone

""Why stop at adultery? How about having an email girlfriend, or cheating on one's taxes? How about not going to church enough, or generally just being a punk?

Grandstanding.""

You invoking logic? You got something against cathartic internet-fueled witch hunts?


80 posted on 03/22/2005 4:34:38 PM PST by Shermy
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