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Woman Arrested Trying To Take Terri Schiavo Water
Reuters ^ | 3/22/05 | Rick Fowler

Posted on 03/22/2005 1:21:25 PM PST by Asphalt

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To: Stakka Skynet
Er...the decision this judge made WAS the activist one.

How so? Activism by judges is generally defined as substituting the judge's own opinions over the law. As I understand it, this judge's opinion followed the law quite closely. People don't like the law, which is well and good, but they shouldn't be attacking the judge for following the law.

441 posted on 03/23/2005 7:50:40 AM PST by Modernman ("They're not people, they're hippies!"- Cartman)
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To: FreedomCalls

Oh. I see. That's too bad, then.


442 posted on 03/23/2005 10:32:47 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Cinnamon Girl
SICK SICK SICK I am a big BIG cop supporter. However I think if I was this cop I would have to give up my job instead of pull this gestapo like tactic... This is FREAKING wrong!
443 posted on 03/23/2005 8:22:14 PM PST by Syntyr
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To: Modernman

Life -- the preservation thereof, the stopping of a murder is a primary law, non-secretarian. Yes LIFE is a religious mandate, too. And a Judge who stands by "letter of law" to allow a muder to continue has thus nullified the whole authority of his judgement.


444 posted on 03/24/2005 11:27:32 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

if simply letting someone die of natural causes is murder, then all countries who do not aid starving third world countries are guilty of murder. I think your definition of murder is skewed. This isnt even a case of euthanasia since there was no un-natural cause of death. I personally think that the way she was left to starve to death was wrong, but euthanasia has been deemed illegal so this was the only way. Change the law, and she could have died a much faster painless death.


445 posted on 04/01/2005 9:43:23 AM PST by liveandletdie
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To: liveandletdie

oops, that was supposed to be to modernman not bvw, my fault.


446 posted on 04/01/2005 9:46:41 AM PST by liveandletdie
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To: liveandletdie

wait, no nevermind, it was to BVW, not modernman... sorry, this is my first time posting to this board, and its a little different than the ones im used to.


447 posted on 04/01/2005 9:48:02 AM PST by liveandletdie
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To: don-o
Good post - There is a reason that the American system has endured these years. It was founded on eternal principles. Which have been eroded little by little, and has now collapsed.

If by eternal principles you mean separation of powers, then you are correct, the separation of power has been greatly compromised by Congress's interference with the court system.
448 posted on 04/01/2005 10:10:21 AM PST by liveandletdie
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To: liveandletdie

Exactly. Judges are infallible. I only wish they would start calling "opinions" fatwas instead.


449 posted on 04/01/2005 10:12:54 AM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
"then you are correct, the separation of power has been greatly compromised by Congress's interference with the court system."

Exactly, the emanations from the penumbra of the constitution is very specific on this point.

450 posted on 04/01/2005 10:19:56 AM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
The early patriots, in an act of civil disobedience and law-breaking, dumped bales of tea in Boston Harbor in protest to the Stamp Act imposed on Americans by the British Parliament (the legislative power-usurpers dictating to the colonies).

And they wore funny costumes also (dressing as pirates). Neal Boortz and Eleanor Clift would tear them apart for that. How dare they?

During certain pivotal occasions in the history of mankind, bold and sometimes theatrical gestures may be called for.....mostly to sharply awaken snoozing public common to every era.

Leni

451 posted on 04/01/2005 10:33:48 AM PST by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: liveandletdie

Maybe you need a drink. Of water. Will the armed policemen in your room let you have it? Water, I mean?


452 posted on 04/01/2005 10:53:15 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

actually, i can walk to my faucet, and pour myself a drink if i want. Who was stopping terri from doing that?


453 posted on 04/01/2005 12:01:04 PM PST by liveandletdie
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To: liveandletdie

The Pinellas Park Police kept anyone from giving or assisting anyone to give Terri food or water. Under Judge's order -- his order was that she starve to death. That's murder and a particulary tortured form thereof, and even aggrevated beyond that torture in that parents -- the dad and mom -- in order to visit Terri suffered constant forceful watching -- forceful in that any act they might have made to alleviate her thirts was forceably stopped. How must it have made the mother's suffering worse!


454 posted on 04/01/2005 1:34:44 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

for her to suffer hunger and thirst, we must also assume that she was concious and self aware. If we assume this then we must also try to understand the constant torture of being in a vegatative state. Have you ever had a night terror? Its when you wake from sleep but are paralized unable to move or speak. It is one of the scariest experiences i can think of. I cant imagine what 15 years of living like that must have been like. You speak of torture, but also think of the torture of living, trapped in your own mind, not able to communicate with anyone, or do anything. I dont know how anyone could maintain sanity in that condition. I think that kind of hell would be worse than anything i would wish upon my worst enemy.


455 posted on 04/01/2005 2:19:41 PM PST by liveandletdie
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To: liveandletdie
I've been there, done that and most emphatically tell you that you are wrong, even perhsps for your own self. I'm not the only one -- there are people on the lecture circuit who were in that condition for years, I was just that way a couple of days. At least one doctor estimates as many as 90% of people change their view once that situtation comes about.

Awake and aware, yet without any muscle control.

456 posted on 04/01/2005 3:16:07 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

are you seriously trying to tell me, that after 15 years of being in a vegatative state, you would want to coninue living. There are some levels of life that just arent worth it anymore. I can only assume that if you can do nothing to contribute to society, or your wife/husband, or your family, or anyone you care about, then you would willfully end it. Carrying on like that only prolongs your suffereing, and the suffereing of others. If she had simply died at the beginning, we wouldnt be having this debate, but men are trying to play God by keeping her alive, and sometimes there is a point when you just need to accept that she is gone, and let her go to the Heaven that you proclaim to believe in.


457 posted on 04/01/2005 9:33:31 PM PST by liveandletdie
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