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Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage 15-35%
Pure Energy Systems ^

Posted on 03/22/2005 12:09:22 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear

This study done by Pure Energy Systems shows that adding Acteone to a tank of gas can improve mileage dramatically.



How it Works

Complete vaporization of fuel is far from perfect in today's cars. A certain amount of fuel in most engines remains liquid in the hot chamber. In order to become a true gas and be fully combusted, fuel must undergo a phase change.

Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes. Similarly with gasoline.

Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension. This results in a more complete vaporization with other factors remaining the same. More complete vaporization means less wasted fuel, hence the increased gas mileage from the increased thermal efficiency.

That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned.

Acetone allows gasoline to behave more like the ideal automotive fuel which is PROPANE. The degree of improved mileage depends on how much unburned fuel you are presently wasting. You might gain 15 to 35-percent better economy from the use of acetone. Sometimes even more.


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To: coloradan

Except you add 3 oz. of the $6/gal acetone to a 10 gallon tank.


121 posted on 03/22/2005 2:27:41 PM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Paradox; sharktrager

Please see post #67. The graphic didn't print when I first clicked on the thread... and naturally, I didn't read the whole article before posting.


122 posted on 03/22/2005 2:41:17 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: OSHA

I meant technically. In common usage, you are correct.


123 posted on 03/22/2005 2:43:14 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: JBlain
Yeah, I'm not sure about this being street legal. Just thought it was interesting. I've never heard of anybody doing this before

Many uses for acetone in fuel. Shade tree mechanics have used acetone to help pass smog tests for years.
The Germans made gasoline from acetone during WWII by bubbling acetyline through it.
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124 posted on 03/22/2005 2:50:30 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: Ecthelion
The higher the compression, the longer the stroke, higher octane you need. Like you said, with high compression, add more octane to reduce pre-ignition.
125 posted on 03/22/2005 2:53:45 PM PST by D Rider
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To: azhenfud

Octane rating refers to how (un)likely the fuel is to detonate, as opposed to burn, in the engine. Detonation is combustion-by-shockwave, also known as "knocking" and is very bad for engine longevity. It isn't directly related to energy density or utilization. High octane fuels knock less, or not at all (even with higher-compression engines) but they won't necessarily give you any more miles per gallon. In principle, you could have a low-energy fuel (that is, that doesn't give you many miles per gallon) that knocks terribly, and another with comparably poor mileage that, however, doesn't knock at all. These would be two fuels with low and high octane ratings, but low gas mileage.

This article alleges that one gets better gas mileage by adding acetone, without making any statement about octane rating.


126 posted on 03/22/2005 2:54:36 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Ghengis

No, acetone is used to reduce the pressure of the acetylene for a given tank capacity. High pressure acetylene is dangerously explosive, but you don't need a high pressure to get a decent amount of it in tank if you first fill the tank with wood chips soaked in acetone. Those tanks are only ~300 psi, as opposed to 2500 or 3000 psi for cylinders of oxygen, argon, nitrogen. (Propane liquefies under fairly low pressure, but it isn't explosive anyway. Acetylene doesn't.)


127 posted on 03/22/2005 2:59:46 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: clearsight
Suppose running a line to inject pure oxygen down the intake would definitely improve combustion.

That's about what nitrous oxide injection does.
It acts as an oxidizer for the gasoline. Creates a huge increase in horsepower, can double it.

128 posted on 03/22/2005 3:00:36 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Red Badger

..or sealing wax?


129 posted on 03/22/2005 3:04:12 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: dljordan
"My question is what happens to the seals and gaskets?"

My question is where do we bury all the dead bodies after drivers end up with cancer from all the light ketones?

130 posted on 03/22/2005 4:29:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: Grampa Dave
Can you imagine going out in the mall parking lot and seeing hundreds of pot heads sniffing gas tanks...

Are you talking about go-carts when you talk about McCullochs?

131 posted on 03/22/2005 4:29:30 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Kerretarded
There are only certain plastics that Acetone attacks violently.

Don't ever use acetone to clean spilled glue off the clear plastic windshield of a Testors model car.

132 posted on 03/22/2005 4:40:39 PM PST by steve86
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To: Solamente
Didn't Kitty Dukakis used to drink Acetone?

Acetone is poisonous. Maybe she drank ether:

"For some time attention has been drawn to the fact that in Ireland the drinking of ether seems to be becoming very popular. The origin of this abuse has not been ascertained. It is stated, on the one hand, that the Irish peasants began ether drinking in the year 1840 at the time of Father Mathew's preaching against alcohol, and on the other that medical men prescribed ether too liberally....

"Intoxication sets in rapidly, and disappears with the same speed. The initial symptoms consist in violent excitation, profuse salivation and eructation. Occasionally convulsions, similar to those of epilepsy occur. A state of stupor is evoked after the consumption of very large doses. Ether drinkers of this kind are quarrelsome, tend to become liars, and suffer from gastric disorders and nervous prostration."

133 posted on 03/22/2005 5:16:08 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: JBlain

Ok A mod over at timebomb tried this on a ranger pickup an increased mpg 13 percent on his first trip, anyone else try it yet?


134 posted on 03/22/2005 5:50:45 PM PST by epaul (I have been known to carry three bottles of beer at a time, saves a trip to the fridge.)
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To: joesnuffy
what does it do to plastic or rubber seals?

It eats them up for breakfast.

135 posted on 03/22/2005 5:53:41 PM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: JBlain

I prefer booze in my gas to acetone. That way I can still drink it if I need to.


136 posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:29 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: aimhigh; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass


Commuting to NYC during the Carter gas rationing days was a hassle.

I was managing a company in NYC but had no company vehicle.

Company cars got tanked up full every day no problemos - the little guy commuting got the Carter shaft.

Using two cars I swapped the front plates and by going daily to two different gas stations to get the small allowed ration was step #1.

Step #2 was to use an el cheapo adjustable aquarium device that metered air flow.

I used large plastic Coke bottles filled with tap water and a tad of ahcohol to run thru clear plastic lines up to a carb vacuum source.

It does not sound like much but my mileage increased enough for me to weather the Jimmuh Cahtaah debacle and I had no loss of power, the plugs ran really clean, and I had no increased oil consumption from dry cylinder walls.

I believe I was using a Castrol top grade 20-50 oil.

Modified advance curve, full advance possible, big Mallory coil, single Holley 4v, 283ci SB Chevy single exhaust 1960 Chevy convertible with a "demo" suspension/front end/wheels/radials to sell an ultra-luxury ride yet ultimate street handling to the NT high roller crowd whose Caddy, Mercedes, Jags, Lincolns, super-cars were bottoming out a falling apart and turning to junk.

I tried it many years before in HS on a '50 Plymouth convertible using an aluminum war surplus canteen on my exhaust manifold (dumb kid!) but did not have the small fishtank toys or experience or fuel problem that I did under Carter.

I do not recommend you try this without asking yourself why you should and some experience with distributor advance curve modifications -

Fuel Injection and computer controls add a new ball of wax.

Cost of the water - from the tap - alcohol I used I bought by the gallon at Sears in the paint department. Exactly what alcohol I do not recall.

It did work - at least until I was able to back up to the gas pumps in NYC and skip those crazy gas lines.

Gas station owner had a Mercedes diesel and uses the heating fuel he sold for residences and businesses.

NYC was full of station owners that were adding water right into their underground tanks - lines were miles long in NYC.

Jimmy Carter and the democrats - what a scam!

We solved that thru cutting drilling in the USA and conservation right?



137 posted on 03/22/2005 6:15:19 PM PST by devolve (WWII : http://pro.lookingat.us/RealHeros.html Kerry-Heinz : http://pro.lookingat.us/RealZeros.html)
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To: coloradan
No, acetone is used to reduce the pressure of the acetylene for a given tank capacity. High pressure acetylene is dangerously explosive, but you don't need a high pressure to get a decent amount of it in tank if you first fill the tank with wood chips soaked in acetone. Those tanks are only ~300 psi, as opposed to 2500 or 3000 psi for cylinders of oxygen, argon, nitrogen. (Propane liquefies under fairly low pressure, but it isn't explosive anyway. Acetylene doesn't.)

Correct. I was trying to say it in shorthand and misstated. Acetylene will blow on its own if not dissolved into the acetone.

138 posted on 03/22/2005 6:16:00 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Dan Evans

Nail Polish contains acetone, and there's tons of references:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Kitty+Dukakis+nail+polish&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial


139 posted on 03/22/2005 8:18:15 PM PST by Solamente
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To: Solamente

Amazing. And she's still alive:

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/dnames-nf/Dukakis+Kitty


140 posted on 03/23/2005 1:45:37 AM PST by Dan Evans
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