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Linux lags Windows in new security report
SearchSecurity.com ^ | 22 March 2005 | Anne Saita

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 03/22/2005 10:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

Tech ping


2 posted on 03/22/2005 10:12:21 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Not a Red Hat fan. Or Mandrake.

I like Debian. Haven't tried Gentoo, but have heard good things about it.


3 posted on 03/22/2005 10:13:44 AM PST by B Knotts
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I've been tempted to try Arch. I've read a couple of good reviws about it. It's based on LFS and Slack, I believe.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 10:16:55 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I ran Slackware years ago, but have been using Debian for years now.


5 posted on 03/22/2005 10:18:13 AM PST by B Knotts
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""Most of us in the Linux security community have been saying for years that the average Linux distribution -- Red Hat, SuSE, etc. -- isn't terribly secure 'by default.' "

ROFLMAO!!! Who is he trying to kid?

6 posted on 03/22/2005 10:18:48 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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Interesting the Linux crowd admits good security comes from careful configuration.

Funny, when I configure a Windows server, I'm careful how I configure it, too.


7 posted on 03/22/2005 10:19:17 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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Funny, I only saw the title and guessed "Vulnerability count!" I was right. I must be getting slower or less cynical though, because I didn't guess "Microsoft-funded report," which is the case.

The other metric measured how much time lapsed between public disclosure

Ah, yes, the disclosure that Microsoft doesn't make until it has a patch in the works vs. the immediate disclosure of Linux bugs when they are discovered.

8 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:27 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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That's the key, who administers it and how. And the Linux crowd is finally having to take that position, since figures like these can't be blamed on Microsoft funding the study.

"During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws."


9 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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ROFLMAO!!! Who is he trying to kid?

No one. Red Hat is notorious.

10 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:05 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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Interesting the Linux crowd admits good security comes from careful configuration.

Funny, when I configure a Windows server, I'm careful how I configure it, too.

Thank you for that post! No matter what platform your managing, care needs to be taken if it's going to be exposed to the open net. Default configurations are rarely appropriate.

11 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:08 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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I've configured both Unix and Windows platforms, and none of it is "configure and forget." That's just asking for trouble.


12 posted on 03/22/2005 10:26:43 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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This shameless FUD brought to you buy a paid MS shill.
13 posted on 03/22/2005 10:27:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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"During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws."

You deny this claim? Then refute it.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:50 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Golden Eagle

One thing that really amused me was when I started investigating web server vulnerabilities, and found out how many different Unix based servers had huge security holes.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:29 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Golden Eagle
You deny this claim? Then refute it.

Default installation?

DEFAULT INSTALLATION?

Anybody who uses the DEFAULT INSTALLTATION has no idea what they are doing, and it doesn't matter what platform they use, they are going to have LOTS OF PROBLEMS.

16 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Try counting up the software installed on the "Windows Platform" vs the software installed on the "Linux installation"

You'll find the Linux installation has hundreds of different pieces of software included -- many performing the same function.


17 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:28 AM PST by sigSEGV
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You'll find the Linux installation has hundreds of different pieces of software included -- many performing the same function.

That's why anyone who knows what he's doing sets up a Linux server bare-bones, then installs the applications and services needed to perform its function. A web server set up this way slashes deep into the Linux vulnerability count, a firewall even more.

18 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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According to netcraft, "securityinnovation.com", which appears to be powered by hamsters at the moment is running a W2K box with IIS 5.0. They don't appear to be up on the latest and greatest. Is MS even patching those anymore?

Given that they consider mere counting tally marks to be a security assessment, I'm not sure how much faith in their judgement.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 11:14:54 AM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
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To: Golden Eagle
During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws.

a more correct wording is ...Windows platform admitted 52 vulnerabilities.... windows seems to only publish vulnerabilities which others already know about, or to which they already have fixes, whereas the open source folks publish the vulnerabilities immediately so as many folks as possible will come up with the best fix.

interesting isn't it that Microsoft *copyrights* its bugs, so as to supress anyone from publishing them...

20 posted on 03/22/2005 11:26:18 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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