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A neo-nazi 'angel of death'
Guardian Unlimited via Drudge ^ | Tuesday March 22, 2005 | Sarah Left

Posted on 03/22/2005 9:23:36 AM PST by Pharmboy

Sarah Left uncovers a series of website posts apparently linking Jeff Weise to extreme rightwing politics

Jeff Weise, the 17-year-old named in newspaper reports as the gunman in the Red Lake school shooting, may have been investigated last year in connection with a shooting threat to the school, according to posts made on a Nazi website. Over a five-month period between March and August 2004, someone identifying himself as Weise posted numerous messages on a talkboard hosted by Nazi.org, the website of the Libertarian National Socialist Green party. The party promotes a Nazi philosophy of racial purity.

In March 2004, a chatroom participant tagged Todesengel ("angel of death") began a thread titled "Native American Nationalist?" and introduced himself as "Jeff Weise, a Native American from the Red Lake 'Indian' reservation in Minnesota". Todesengel expressed interest in joining the party and said he had done a great deal of research on Hitler, a man he much admired. Later in the thread, Todesengel changed his tag to NativeNazi. "When I was growing up, I was taught (like others) that Nazi's were (are) evil and that Hitler was a very evil man, ect," wrote Todesengel, in a quote not corrected for spelling and grammar. "Of course, not for a second did I believe this. Upon reading up on his actions, the ideals and issues the German Third Reich adressed, I began to see how much of a lie had been painted about them. They truly were doing it for the better."

On April 19 2004, he posted to the talkboard: "By the way, I'm being blamed for a threat on the school I attend because someone said they were going to shoot up the school on 4/20, Hitlers birthday, and just because I claim being a National Socialist, guess whom they've pinned?"

By May 26 the incident seemed to have blown over, with Todesengel posting: "But the school threat passed and I was cleared as a suspect, I'm glad for that. I don't much care for jail, I've never been there and I don't plan on it."

The gun rampage through the remote northern Minnesota reservation yesterday left 10 people dead. Reports suggested that Weise took a shotgun and at least one handgun belonging to his grandfather, a veteran local police officer. He shot his grandparents, who later died, before moving on to Red Lake high school and killing five students, a teacher, a security guard and ultimately himself.

Today the Libertarian National Socialist Green party said incidents such as yesterday's shooting were to be expected when "thinking people are crammed into an unthinking, irrational modern society".

"We knew [Weise] briefly through 34 posts he made on the forum. He expressed himself well and was clearly highly intelligent and contemplative, especially for one so young," the site's administrator said in statement posted today on Nazi.org.

"Weise participated in the forum in part because, unlike 'white nationalist' or 'white power' movements, the LNSG embraces all races as part of its vision of world nationalism. His statements on the site reflected a frustration with the populist politics and materialistic arrogance of modern society," the statement continued.

In a July 13 post, NativeNazi expressed his concern that Native Americans had turned their backs on racial purity and were being weakened by "interracial mixing". He was particularly annoyed that young Native Americans were copying the culture of African Americans.

"Where I live less than 1% of all the people on the Reservation can speak their own language, and among the youth wanting to be black has run ramped. We have kids my age killing each other over things as simple as a fight, and it's because of the rap influence. Wannabe-gangsters everywhere, I can't go 5 feet without hearing someone blasting some rap song over their speakers," he complained.

He went on: "It's hard though, being a Native American National Socialist, people are so misinformed, ignorant, and close minded it makes your life a living hell."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: murder; nativeamericans; school
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To: Pharmboy
Isn`t Weise a Jewish name? Like Weisenthal? Pretty strange, but on the other hand, New Yorkers electing a Nazi as Senator is even stranger, or maybe not being that they are all dim-o-rats.

Only the colors of der Nazi party for Hitlery. Red, black und white!

21 posted on 03/22/2005 9:48:47 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (ALL MY BASE ARE BELONG TO YOU)
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To: Imaverygooddriver
Yes...that struck me also. A native American with a German or German-Jewish name. Also, you might be thinking of Weiss which means "white" in German and is a common German-Jewish name.
22 posted on 03/22/2005 9:51:11 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Always Right

This is a symptom of the theory that politics fit on a straight line when, in fact, beliefs can be all over the place.


23 posted on 03/22/2005 9:54:19 AM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Pharmboy
Superb! You should edit this into a great tagline!

When this came up before, someone added: The greatest accomplishment of the left has been convincing the world that the Nazis were rightwingers.

24 posted on 03/22/2005 10:02:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Pharmboy

Since when are socialists, libertarians, green party and nazi's--- right wing in any sense? They are really getting desparate......


25 posted on 03/22/2005 10:07:04 AM PST by zippee
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To: zippee
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party = Extreme Left Liberals (Nazis).

The left's mantra of calling Conservatives Nazis has officially ended today.

True Nazis hid who they really were (for a while) and so have Liberals.

With the euthanasia of Schiavo, abortion & the school shooting in Minnesota, they have finally been outed once and for all:

Liberals = Nazis in Disguise

26 posted on 03/22/2005 10:14:07 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: zippee

There are many libertarians in the Republican party and many of them are on this site.


27 posted on 03/22/2005 11:04:32 AM PST by opinionator
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To: Pharmboy

How does killing his grandparents fit with all the Nazi BS? Who were the others he selected to kill? Or, was it random?


28 posted on 03/22/2005 11:16:32 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Yes...interesting point. The article mentioned that his grandfather had been a law enforcement officer with the reservation for years. Perhaps the police connection doomed grandpa.


29 posted on 03/22/2005 11:26:00 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST
... Hitler was not only a socialist in his own day but he would even be a ...
Hitler and other socialists is proof of what a typical socialist Hitler was. ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143131/posts - 143k - Mar 21, 2005

30 posted on 03/22/2005 6:01:04 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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