[Sam the Sham]

Of course I did.

And all of it ignored the basic fact that fascist "socialism" was never collectivist. It was a romanticization of the heroic comradeship of an elite assault unit. Like that ceremony in "Triumph of the Will" where the men say they are all from different parts of Germany but they are all as one.

[An.American.Expatriate]

Oh, okay.

I guess this doesn't meet the definition of collectivist:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in life and property, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as a crime against the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits whether in assets or material.

13. We demand the nationalization of businesses which have been organized into cartels.

14. We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

[sasportas]

Which are you, Democrat or Liberaltarian?

[chudogg]

Like that ceremony in "Triumph of the Will" where the men say they are all from different parts of Germany but they are all as one.

In other words, collectivist.