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Michael Schiavo to Bush: Come down to visit Terri
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/21/05 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:28 PM PST by wagglebee

Michael Schiavo, reportedly angered by the latest developments in Washington, has done an about-face in his longstanding position of not allowing visitors to meet his estranged wife, Terri, the brain-injured Florida woman whose right to live is at the heart of a cliff-hanging euthanasia battle.

According to the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo invited both President Bush and his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, to visit Terri at the hospice where she is undergoing a court-ordered starvation death after her feeding tube was removed Friday.

"Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in the Times interview Saturday. "Come talk to me. Meet my wife. Talk to my wife and see if you get an answer. Ask her to lift her arm to shake your hand. She won't do it.

She won't, because she can't, said Schiavo.

"Terri died 15 years ago," he said, referring to her collapse in 1990 that cut off oxygen to her brain, leaving her seriously brain injured and unable to talk.

A handful of physicians say she is in a persistent vegetative state -- that is, she may seem to be alert and awake, but the smiles and laughter she exhibits are simply reflex actions. Florida law permits removal of feeding tubes from patients who are PVS.

More than 40 physicians and therapists have weighed in on the side of Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, who maintain she is aware, though seriously impaired, and could improve with therapy.

Regarding his invitation to the president, Schiavo said he made a similar offer to Gov. Bush last week but has not had a reply.

Schiavo described U.S. House Majority Leader Bill Frist, who led the effort to extend Terri's life, as a "little slithering snake" pandering for votes.

"To make coments that Terri would want to live, how do they [members of Congress] know?" he asked.

"What color are her eyes?" he demanded. "What's her middle name? What's her favorite color? They don't have any clue who Terri is. They should all be ashamed of themselves."

Schiavo's invitations to the president and his brother represent an exception to his long-standing ban on visitors, which has kept Terri in near-total seclusion at the Woodside Hospice Facility in Pinellas Park, Fla. Only her parents and siblings are allowed ready access. All others, including her priest and the attorneys representing her parents, may visit only when accompanied by an immediate family member.

Nancy Valko, a critical care nurse in St. Louis activist on euthanasia and related pro-life issues, reacted with caution to Schiavo's invitation to the president and governor.

"Hopefully, Terri is not being sedated or is too debilitated now from the dehydration to be seen, but it doesn't look good if Michael is saying this," she commented. "Personally, I think the fear of having Terri seen by the authorities and/or public is what was behind the quick removal of feedings Friday. Otherwise, why has Michael refused to allow pictures or to allow Terri outside?"

Except when she is taken to a whirlpool bath, Terri never leaves her room -- not even to attend functions offered all other residents, such as sing-alongs and concerts. This past Christmas, when "Santa Claus" visited the hospice, her door was kept firmly shut to prevent the jolly gentleman from catching a glimpse of her, and she of him. Carolers, too, were barred.

Even Judge George Greer, who has presided over the contentious case since September 1999, has not met Terri, having been persuaded by Schiavo's attorney, "right-to-die" advocate George Felos, not to visit her at the nursing home where she then was living.

On January 10, 2000 - just days before the trial that sealed Terri's fate was scheduled to begin - attorney Pamela Campbell, who represented Terri's parents, formally asked Greer if he would visit the disabled woman so he could see for himself how alert she is.

At a hearing on the matter, Felos argued that since both parties had agreed Terri was in a persistent vegetative state, to observe the patient was futile and unnecessary.

The judge accepted Felos' arguments, rejecting the opportunity to see for himself the woman whose life was in his hands.

The ban on visitation, which Schiavo defends as a necessary protection of his wife's privacy, came after a short video was played to the court during the 2000 trial, showing Terri alert and interacting with her parents.

The video, played at the trial over the objections of Felos, later was released to the public and run on a local TV channel.

Upon seeing the tape on TV, three physicians contacted the Schindlers offering to help.

Robert Schindler took each doctor in turn to the nursing home to meet his daughter. They were there long enough to see she was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schindler said, and they signed separate affidavits to that effect.

They also asked to be allowed to intervene in the case, but Greer rejected their requests and granted a motion by Felos for a no-visitation policy. Aside from nurses and her attending physician, the three doctors were the last professionals to have any contact with Terri for more than two years.

Other physicians in 2001 stated they believe Terri Schiavo is not PVS, but have been limited to basing their opinion on observing videotapes.

This holds for the 33 physicians who recently signed affidavits stating she is minimally conscious "or better," as opposed to being PVS.

Terri's eyes are brown

In his interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo took particular umbrage at no one knowing what color his estranged wife's eyes are. They are brown.

But a neurologist personally selected by Schiavo and Felos to examine Terri prior to a medical hearing was unable to recall that particular fact on the witness stand.

In Oct. 2002, following a series of legal maneuvers by the Schindlers, the Second District Court of Appeal ordered a medical evidentiary hearing to determine whether Terri is, in fact, in a persistent vegetative state, and if she is, what treatments might help her.

Dr. Melvin Greer, chairman of the University of Florida's College of Medicine in Gainsville, was one of two physicians chosen by Felos to examine her.

After performing a few bedside procedures to test her vision and hearing and general reflexes, Dr. Greer diagnosed Terri to be in a persistent vegetative state, for which there was no treatment. To test what he actually remembered about her, attorney Pat Anderson, representing the Schindlers, asked Dr. Greer what color Terri's eyes are.

"I don't know," he declared simply.

"She has huge brown eyes," Anderson told Judge Greer in her closing remarks.

"If you remember nothing else about her, you remember that."

When questioned by Anderson, Dr. Greer admitted he had not read a certain, major article in a British medical journal reporting a 43 percent error rate in PVS diagnoses over a five-year period.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; georgewbush; indict; indict4insulinstory; indict4nursestory; indictmichaelnow; indictonpolicereport; indictshiavo; jebbush; michaelschiavo; prolife; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Salamander

Oh if MC did it... if it were proven...

How would I prefer him done?

Lock him in a room, tied to a chair. Video tape of someone ELSE being with his "other" wife and kids.

But wait, where's the physical pain you ask?

Wire the chair. He moves in his chair, he gets a shock. The more he moves, the worse it is.

Then comes the "tests" that prove Terri is alive.

Force him daily to follow a balloon with his eyes only. Place a tube into his stomach as the only way for him to eat. No more steak din-dins for Mikey.

But of course, we need to fit the crime exactly. How would we do so? I think I have an answer:

Starve him once in a while for 4 or more days at a time. Only to feed him so that he may live through another "fasting."


121 posted on 03/21/2005 8:09:15 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: DaveTesla

God bless him for it.

For me, this is becoming more an uninvestigated crime than a "right to live/die" issue, right now.
That the tiniest possibility exists that this woman was nearly murdered -must- be investigated and she -must- be allowed the same "due process" any other victim has a right to.

The precedence for abuse is there.
The physical evidence is there, via broken bones and other unexplained injuries.


122 posted on 03/21/2005 8:11:07 PM PST by Salamander
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To: MacDorcha

Dr. Hammesfahr had seen the combination of injuries Terri suffered (spinal cord injury, brain injury, and neck injury) one other time. That was in an attempted strangulation case.

A police report was sent to homicide. There was no follow-up; no investigation by police. Dr. Hammesfahr said Terri's situation is unique. He consistently sees wrong things happen to Terri. There is no law enforcement follow-up now for fear of stepping on toes.

[Lisa's note: There is no law enforcement because the police fear the people "in high places" who are trying to pull off this very obviously ILLEGAL murder plot. Everyone closely involved with this case knows that the plan to kill Terri is a government operation, and they are either actively helping them with this agenda or passively helping them by refusing to stand in their way.]


123 posted on 03/21/2005 8:11:13 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Salamander
I don't think your theory is wild-@ssed. The guy gives me the creeps. To quote Lawrence O'Donnell......"He's a creep! A liar! A creepy lying liar!"

It' 8 o'clock on the west....I have a baaaad feeling now, whereas this morning I woke up optimistic.

124 posted on 03/21/2005 8:13:46 PM PST by CAluvdubya ("Deep in everybody's soul is the great desire to live in freedom"...George W. Bush 3-11-05)
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To: MacDorcha

Lock him in a room with Terri's family.

Don't open the door 'til the screaming stops.

Let blood see to blood.



125 posted on 03/21/2005 8:13:52 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Salamander
May GOD protect the weak, the old and the disabled from these people.

I am grateful to president Bush.
126 posted on 03/21/2005 8:13:54 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: MacDorcha

The trunk/sniper guys?
I'd just lock them up with a herd of wild hogs....:)


127 posted on 03/21/2005 8:16:14 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Grassontop

All I have is prayer.
She'll not be freed by mere mortal means, now.


128 posted on 03/21/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Salamander

Death (a quick one) would just be to good for him though. You gotta make him sit. Attrophy. higher brain functions have to leave him. Not quickly like they did for Terri. But slowly. He has to be BROKEN by bending oh so slowly.

I'd be all for housing "lifers" if they'd just get slapped around some by the people we pay. Just letting them rot is a waste of my money!


129 posted on 03/21/2005 8:21:14 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: CAluvdubya

Thank you....:)

[some here think me mad...but there be method in it]


The Mad Amphibian of Denmark....;)



130 posted on 03/21/2005 8:21:51 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Salamander

"I'd just lock them up with a herd of wild hogs....:)"


I'm trying to connect that one....


131 posted on 03/21/2005 8:22:08 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: wagglebee
This is in really bad taste - but I thought it might add a little levity...


132 posted on 03/21/2005 8:22:42 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Mar 21, 1946 - The United Nations sets up temporary headquarters at Hunter College in New York)
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To: Salamander

for the record: I don't think you're mad. I have all reason to assume I KNOW you're mad! :p


133 posted on 03/21/2005 8:23:04 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: MacDorcha

Somehow I doubt it would be "quick".

You'll have to pardon the clannish symmetry of my idea....it's the hillbilly shining through....;)


134 posted on 03/21/2005 8:24:20 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Salamander
"When is that bitch going to die?" --Michael Schiavo

EXCERPTS FROM CYNTHIA SHOOK MAY 8, 2001 DEPOSITION

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366761/posts?page=278#278

Funny all the links have dissapeared from the internet since yesterday.
135 posted on 03/21/2005 8:29:52 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

There's a group of people who take severely retarded/handicapped people out for daytrips to the local mall.
Many of those people don't even know where they are in general, much less that they're tooling around a shopping center.
But still, those devoted caretakers make sure that they're getting mental stimulation [and hopefully enjoyment] just in case they *can*.

The true definition of mercy is giving when there is absolutely -no- chance that you will ever get anything in return.

They'll be next, I fear.
90% of them can't really move, much less feed themselves.




136 posted on 03/21/2005 8:30:01 PM PST by Salamander
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To: wagglebee
""Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in the Times interview Saturday. "Come talk to me. Meet my wife. "

Per the invitation, The President should show up at Schiavo's door to see his wife Jodi, and have a chat with her.

137 posted on 03/21/2005 8:30:39 PM PST by cookcounty (Michael Schiavo is living in a PBS ----a Persistant Bigamous State.)
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To: hineybona
This is a very sad situation but Im VERY concerned with the govt. getting this deeply involved in mattesr that are traditionally left up to the family and doctors. This could really backfire on us down the road. I see that logical and critical thinking minds that are the norm on this site are now blinded by pure emotion .Willingness to believe anything at all without factual proof is not the norm on FR.I'm very torn myself ove rthis case but Im also willing to be logical .

E-mail me and I will send you the reports. You will see Michael is a snake, then you will sound logical.
138 posted on 03/21/2005 8:30:43 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Salamander

Hehe, it seems while I'm more about justice in the "criminal" sense, you're all for the "eye for an eye" aspect.


139 posted on 03/21/2005 8:30:46 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: MacDorcha

John *Mohammed*....:))


140 posted on 03/21/2005 8:31:23 PM PST by Salamander
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