Posted on 03/21/2005 2:10:57 PM PST by Ibredd
If she got better in certain health institutions Michael had her moved.
Thanks so very much. I have it on now.
Who should make the final call about whether feeding tubes can be removed from Terri Schiavo, a severely brain-damaged Florida woman?Well, at least they're not asking whether she should be allowed/left/forced to die. The average Joe Sixpack who gets his news from NBCBSABCNN understandably believes she's brain dead.
o The courts
o Lawmakers
o Terri's parents
o Terri's husband
If you buy that "Nobel prize" crap, you really need to do some research. Let me put it this way - no one in the scientific community nominated him.
Interesting read
http://libertytothecaptives.net/hammesfahr_dr._report.html
Interesting that this mess he is spreading on Hannity about her walking is found NOWHERE in his report.
I hadn't realized that. I knew the Judge was a Clinton appointee, but I didn't realize female.
No wonder the decision wasn't made. A women just can't make up her mind.At least I can't:-)
Would you give me a link to the site where I can read this report? I Googled but didn't come up with what I thought you are refering to.
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I just went and read the review on "quackwatch.com", and found it interesting.
The reviewer (Dr.Steven Novella) didn't totally dismiss Hammesfahr's theories out of hand.
What he did state was that he felt :
"Four patients is far too small a sample from which to derive solid conclusions."
And also:
"The case series was not controlled. To arrive at a reliable clinical conclusion, a much larger number of patients would have to be treated, followed with standard scoring mechanisms (not just the examination of one physician), and compared to a placebo-controlled group."
But, in his final appraisal he states:
" Although Hammesfahr states that the patients performed better when TCD measurement showed increased cerebral blood flow, the test protocol lacked controls -- SO IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE CERTAIN HIS OBSERVATIONS WERE MEANINGFUL. Even if the observations were valid, the alleged blood flow increases were only temporary."
He isn't necessarily stating the Hammesfahr is a 'quack'.
He is just stating that his 'methods' may be in question, even if his results MAY be valid.
More on his TV show tonight. I only hope that Holmes does not use up valuable time making an ass of himself on such an important issue.
Well, I don't have cable so glad I caught it on the radio.
PVS means that a doctor has given up on finding any sign of cognitive response. If a doctor doesn't look very hard, he's not likely to find any.
I think the husband's actions are very suspicious. Two nurses have stated that every attempt to help Terri with food, water or therapy was stopped or denied by the husband.... hmmmmmmm
Why won't he let the parents have control? Maybe she could get better and implicate him....... hmmmmmm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7254897/
The poll posted at the beginning of this tread apparently been pulled at this time. Thanks all
Right now it is going against Terri having her tube put back in.
Here is another MD's report.
He tried to testify for her and was ignored.(William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.) It is basically his final conclusion of Terri's condition. I have left out parts because it is lengthy but I think you can get the jest.
Impression:
The patient is not in coma.
She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific people best.
She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise.
She responds negatively to poor tone of voice.
She responds to music.
She differentiates sounds from voices.
She differentiates specific people's voices from others.
She differentiates music from stray sound.
She attempts to verbalize.(!!!!!)
She has voluntary control over multiple extremities
She can swallow.(!!!!)
She is partially blind
She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.
She can feel pain.
On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.
With respect to specifics and specific recommendations in order to carry out the instructions of the Second District Court of Appeal:
From a neurological standpoint: The patient appears to be partially blind.
She needs a full opthamological (eye) evaluation and visual evoked potentials done to flash and checkerboard patters. The opthamological examination is to evaluate her retina and her ophthalmic nerve to try to determine the cause of her visual limitations and if any treatment exists. The evoked potentials looks at the nerve between the eye and the visual centers in the brain, to see if there is treatable damage and the type of damage, if any in these areas.
This is important, as for individuals to interact with her...
*snip*
Communication: She can communicate. She needs a Speech Therapist, Speech Pathologist, and a communications expert to evaluate how to best communicate with her and to allow her to communicate and for others to communicate with her.
Also, a treatment plan for how to develop better communication needs to be done.
*snip*
ENT: The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately 2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube.(!!!!!) She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.
*snip*
Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs.
This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable.
Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat.
A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.
Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated.
*snip*
____________________________ William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.
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