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U.S. Constitution & Congress: Where’s their power to get involved in Schiavo case?
U.S. Constitution via House of Representatives website ^ | 3/21/05

Posted on 03/21/2005 12:05:39 PM PST by Wolfstar

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United States Constitution

Article. III. Section. 2.

Clause 1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State; --between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

1 posted on 03/21/2005 12:05:44 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar


Didn't you listen to Rush today?

Congress controls the courts. Article 4 or 5 I think.



2 posted on 03/21/2005 12:07:46 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Wolfstar


Article. IV.
Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.


3 posted on 03/21/2005 12:09:18 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Wolfstar
The United States Constitution does not authorize Congress to involve itself in an individual legal matter. If the Senate had agreed to what the House originally wanted to do, which was to craft a law applying to all similar cases, then they would have been on solid Constitutional ground. However, the law they crafted was narrowly tailored to one individual case. For this reason, I suspect it will be found unconstitutional should matters get that far.
4 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:00 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Seems it would be easier to save an endangered toad than a human being.


5 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:14 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Wolfstar

While I sympathize with Terri, I agree that this is not a federal issue. Congress and the federal courts should stay out of it.


6 posted on 03/21/2005 12:11:03 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Wolfstar
Congress isn't voting on whether Terri's feeding tube should be removed, they are referring it to a Federal court and to a different judge!




WHICH IS CONSTITUTIONAL
8 posted on 03/21/2005 12:11:34 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LightCrusader



Congress is COMPLETELY WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION. They are giving the case to a Federal judge!



9 posted on 03/21/2005 12:12:24 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

So they will just shop around judges until they get one that will decide in their favor? What if the federal judge also dides against Terri?


10 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:09 PM PST by conserv13
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Didn't you listen to Rush today?

No. Instead, I consulted the United States Constitution. The relevant sections are posted above on this thread.

11 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:47 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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To: conserv13

more of the same


12 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:55 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Wolfstar

Article 3, Section 1
"The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."

So Congress can ordain and establish inferior courts. Who knew Congress has the power to establish a court or disestablish one too.


13 posted on 03/21/2005 12:14:08 PM PST by MisterRepublican (I DEMAND THAT FOX NEWS GET JENNIFER ECCLESTON BACK FROM NBC!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
US Constitution, Article. III.,Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

I am not entirely sure that the bill explicitly involves Terri Schiavo anyway, but rather applies to all such cases. I don't have the bill text handy, though.

The Schiavo threads on here are getting downright nasty. Just a word of warning. I'll try and get that bill text.

14 posted on 03/21/2005 12:15:23 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Article IV, Section 1 has to do with relationships between the states. It speaks to laws enacted in one state being given full faith and credit in all the states. It has no bearing on the Schiavo case whatsoever.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 12:15:51 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

It is the power of judicial review which is one of the powers of checks and balances the Congress has.


16 posted on 03/21/2005 12:16:09 PM PST by DarthVader (John "Diarrhea of the Mouth" Kerry = Vile Smelling Excrement)
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To: Wolfstar


Good post.


17 posted on 03/21/2005 12:17:04 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Congress isn't voting on whether Terri's feeding tube should be removed, they are referring it to a Federal court and to a different judge!

If Congress had passed a law saying all such cases must be referred to a federal judge for review, I believe they would have been on stronger Constitutional ground. Doing it for a single individual is where the problem lies. The House wanted the law to be more widely applicable, but the Senate would not agree, unfortunately.

18 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:08 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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To: MisterRepublican; Wolfstar

"So Congress can ordain and establish inferior courts."

They didn't make a court. They made a law to get someone into an established Federal Court.


19 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:11 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Wolfstar; MisterRepublican


ARTICLE 3, and 3

and also


What about CRUEL and UNUSUAL Punishment?

What about the right to LIFE LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness?

these are Federal issues!

W


20 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:33 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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