To: FBD
Of course I will. Michael's wife DIED fifteen years ago. All that remains is the shell of her body. She is gone.
I find this objection absurd - what option does a young Catholic have in Michael's case? It's not as if he shacked up with another woman within days, weeks or months after his wife's collapse. IIRC, he waited for six or seven years before making that move.
Who among us can honestly critisize him for that?
I know many Catholics who didn't get a divorce and subsequently lived with another woman. Somehow, the sin of living together is not as great as the sin of divorce in their eyes. After all, according to Catholic dogma, divorce is an excommunicable offense (I know, surprised me too) whereas living together isn't.
To: Edward Watson
A dead person doesn't smile at her mother when she walks into the room.
Terri Schiavo does. Therefore, she isn't dead. Yet.
220 posted on
03/21/2005 9:31:51 AM PST by
ex 98C MI Dude
(Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
To: Edward Watson
>"I find this objection absurd - what option does a young Catholic have in Michael's case?"<
?
The Catholic church cannot stop anyone from getting a divorce in this country.
222 posted on
03/21/2005 9:32:41 AM PST by
FBD
("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
To: Edward Watson
All that remains is the shell of her body. She is gone. I see you also think that you are the ONLY voice that counts. What about loving parents that want to take care of her. What happened to you, happened to YOU. It is childish to think that your solution will work in this case.
I recommend that you think it out carefully and don't EVEn attempt to thrust your belief structure on others. Your BIAS is showing.
Semper Disgusted
239 posted on
03/21/2005 9:47:04 AM PST by
Trident/Delta
("Veni..Vedi..Velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around......")
To: Edward Watson; All
>"...what option does a young Catholic have in Michael's case?..."
"After all, according to Catholic dogma, divorce is an excommunicable offense..."
I'm amused that you are defending Micheal Schiavo as a good little Catholic. Are you aware of what the Catholic Medical Association President- Dr.Robert J. Saxer, M.D. has said about this case?
"The withdrawal of nutrition and hydration from Mrs. Terri Schiavo will result in her death.
The tube feeding itself does not impose an excessive burden on the patient. Discontinuing nutrition and hydration in this circumstance violates in its intention the distinction between "causing death" and "allowing death." (Catholic Medical Assoc. Bioethical Principles of Medical Practice #9)
Therefore, in view of these teachings and directives, we must conclude that at this time the withdrawal of nutrition and hydration from Mrs. Terry Schiavo cannot be justified by currently promulgated Catholic moral principles."
-Robert J. Saxer, M.D.
President, Catholic Medical Association
Are you aware of what the Catholic church says about cremating someone wthout first having a funeral for them? That is Mr. Schiavo's stated intention for Terry Schiavo.
You can defend this guy all you want, but you should probably stop defending him as a good little Catholic boy, who merely doesn't want to be excommunicated for divorcing his wife, while he lives with another.
298 posted on
03/21/2005 10:22:38 AM PST by
FBD
("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
To: Edward Watson; HMFIC; justshutupandtakeit; William Terrell
Excellent opinion from the WSJ. I imagine you four wouldn't agree with any of it, but I'll post it for your consideration.
Regards
"What kind of husband is Michael Schiavo?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006451
"According to news reports, Mr. Schiavo lives with a woman named Jodi Centonze, and they have two children together. Surely any court would consider this prima facie evidence of adultery. And this is no mere fling; a sympathetic 2003 profile in the Orlando Sentinel described Centonze as Mr. Schiavo's "fangée." Mr. Schiavo, in other words, has virtually remarried. Short of outright bigamy, his relationship with Centonze is as thoroughgoing a violation of his marriage vows as it is possible to imagine.
The point here is not to castigate Mr. Schiavo for behaving badly. It would require a heroic degree of self-sacrifice for a man to forgo love and sex in order to remain faithful to an incapacitated wife, and it would be unreasonable to hold an ordinary man to a heroic standard.
But it is equally unreasonable to let Mr. Schiavo have it both ways. If he wishes to assert his marital authority to do his wife in, the least society can expect in return is that he refrain from making a mockery of his marital obligations. The grimmest irony in this tragic case is that those who want Terri Schiavo dead are resting their argument on the fiction that her marriage is still alive."
346 posted on
03/21/2005 10:45:32 AM PST by
FBD
("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
To: Edward Watson
After all, according to Catholic dogma, divorce is an excommunicable offense (I know, surprised me too) whereas living together isn't. No, it isn't. Remarriage after divorce (to the Catholic Church, that is "living together") means you can't receive the sacraments -- you can't make a valid confession, because unless you leave the second (civil) spouse or live together as brother and sister, you show no purpose of amendment, i.e., no inclination to discontinue the sin. A sin you have no intention of not continuing (as opposed to trying, failing, and trying again) cannot be absolved.
421 posted on
03/21/2005 11:26:12 AM PST by
maryz
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