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Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


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KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischavio; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: codercpc

Just as an FYI for the thread, here is a timeline of events:

February 25, 1990
Terri Schiavo suffers cardiac arrest, taken to Humana Hospital where she remains in a coma for weeks, comes out into a vegetative state. There, she is given (PEG) tube to provide nutrition and hydration.


May 12, 1990

Terri Schiavo is discharged from the hospital and taken to the College Park skilled care and rehabilitation facility.


June 18, 1990

Court appoints Michael Schiavo as guardian; Terri Schiavo’s parents do not object.


June 30, 1990

Terri Schiavo is transferred to Bayfront Hospital for further rehabilitation efforts.


September 1990

Terri Schiavo’s family brings her home, but three weeks later they return her to the College Park facility because the family is “overwhelmed by Terri’s care needs.”


November 1990

Michael Schiavo takes Terri Schiavo to California for experimental “brain stimulator” treatment, an experimental “thalamic stimulator implant” in her brain.


January 1991

The Schiavos return to Florida; Terri Schiavo is moved to the Mediplex Rehabilitation Center in Brandon where she receives 24-hour care.


July 19, 1991

Terri Schiavo is transferred to Sable Palms skilled care facility where she receives continuing neurological testing, and regular and aggressive speech/occupational therapy through 1994.


May 1992

Terri Schiavo’s parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, and Michael Schiavo stop living together.


August 1992

Terri Schiavo is awarded $250,000 in an out-of-court medical malpractice settlement with one of her physicians.


November 1992

The jury in the medical malpractice trial against another of Terri’s physicians awards more than one million dollars for not diagnosing her apparent bulimia. In the end, after subtracting 70% due to Terri's own responsibility, attorneys’ fees and other expenses,
Michael Schiavo received about $300,000 and
about $750,000 was put in a trust fund specifically for Terri Schiavo’s medical care.


February 14, 1993

Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers have a falling-out over the course of therapy for Terri Schiavo; Michael Schiavo claims that the Schindlers demand that he share the malpractice money with them.


July 29, 1993

Schindlers attempt to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri Schiavo’s guardian; the court later dismisses the suit.


March 1, 1994

First guardian ad litem, John H. Pecarek, submits his report. He states that Michael Schiavo has acted appropriately and attentively toward Terri Schiavo.


May 1998

Michael Schiavo petitions the court to authorize the removal of Terri Schiavo’s PEG tube; the Schindlers oppose, saying that Terri would want to remain alive. The court appoints Richard Pearse, Esq., to serve as the second guardian ad litem for Terri Schiavo.


December 20, 1998

The second guardian ad litem, Richard Pearse, Esq., issues his report in which he concluding that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state with no chance of improvement and that Michael Schiavo’s decision-making may be influenced by the potential to inherit the remainder of Terri Schiavo’s estate.


January 24, 2000

The trial begins; Pinellas-Pasco County Circuit Court Judge George Greer presides.


February 11, 2000

Judge Greer rules that Terri Schiavo would have chosen to have the PEG tube removed, and therefore he orders it removed, which, according to doctors, will cause her death in approximately 7 to 14 days.

And I should add, in 2002 the Schindlers make their first charge that Michael strangled Terri on the night she collapsed. 12 years later.


261 posted on 03/20/2005 1:51:06 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Mamzelle
Why, for that matter, would it hurt to hand over custody of Terri to her father, mother, sister, and brother instead of the guy with the fiance?

That is the question I have.

262 posted on 03/20/2005 1:51:07 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: queenkathy

Yes, can't believe no one is pushing that for prove. How many times have they said in court that something is hearsay and they throw it out?


263 posted on 03/20/2005 1:51:17 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: kcvl

You are not everyone and neither is Terri.


264 posted on 03/20/2005 1:51:49 PM PST by marajade
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To: Peach
"When the malpractice case was heard in court, you can imagine the number of professional doctors who were called as witnesses for both sides. It was when he heard that she was PVS with no hope, that I think he decided it was time to carry out her wishes. "
That is the stupidest argument I have seen today. Forgetting the sleaze of MS, he is a nurse -how good I don't know - Ivy League trained nurses tend not to end up in prisons. But as a nurse he should not have suddenly found out about her condition during the trial.
As a nurse he should have been extremely familiar with her condition from day one. (even if brain injury was not his field of expertise , he should know where to look it up).
Unless he was already being a Lothario.
265 posted on 03/20/2005 1:51:57 PM PST by avile (take the money and run with the ho)
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To: kcvl

I gave examples of the lies that freepers are spreading. Eleanor Clift has no bearing on FR except to be ridiculed.

But you bet if I saw freepers make a statement like that, I'd correct it.


266 posted on 03/20/2005 1:52:10 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Neets

"Isn't there some sort of saying about the sure fire way to prove how smart you are is to open your mouth?"


LOL! Yes, they just don't realize that doing it by pecking a keyboeard is the same thing..... hehehehe!


267 posted on 03/20/2005 1:52:16 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Mo1
After the mal-practice came through, the schindlers got pi$$ed b/c they couldn't have half the money. They had gone bankrupt & couldn't get credit. (I read this from a court transcript.)

The money went for Terri's care.

And it ended up being $300,000. Lawyers took the bulk.

Her medical care ate it up like a slot machine.

The parents chose not to see Terri for months & months.

It was their choice.

Nobody was keeping them from seeing her. Only themselves.

268 posted on 03/20/2005 1:52:31 PM PST by the Deejay
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To: kcvl

This stopped being a family matter when a judge became an accomplice in an attempted murder of an innocent woman.


269 posted on 03/20/2005 1:52:34 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Yea mothers and fathers grieve and hurt when their child dies, but that doesn't give far removed people the right to twist and turn facts and make up silly lies to further their agenda.

Once a "child" marries the parents no longer have rights to their children.

Tuff news to handle but that is a fact.


270 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:01 PM PST by Neets
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To: Peach
Can you imagine suspecting that your brother in law may have strangled your sister and you wait 12 years to mention it? LOL

Peach, the family was not aware of the bone scan that was done in 1992, one year after Terri's collapse -- until 10 years later.

They had no clue of the numerous fractures that showed up a year after the collapse.

Her guardian, that is the estranged husband, did not allow them access to her records.

271 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:07 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Mamzelle

I don't see the big rush. That has been going on for 15 years.

And I've posted why I think Michael is doing what he's doing. It's available on this thread and it's a long answer so I hope you'll forgive me not posting it again.


272 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:34 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach; Mamzelle

"I don't believe that's right about Greer being the Guardian ad litem. He's the judge who has abjudicated this matter between the Schindlers and Schiavos."


Mamzelle is correct. The same Judge Greer is also the GAL.
It's out there in cyberspace somewhere.....don't want to do a search right now.


273 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:38 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: windchime
Who is Judge Greer.

A soon to be federal inmate.

274 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:39 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: avile

Well Terri's been in this state for 15 years. Are you saying you would be able to live like a saint?


275 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:44 PM PST by marajade
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To: Mamzelle

you know, i think the reactions to this case would be dramatically different if he didn't have the glaring conflicts that he currently has (the girlfriend and 2 kids). it is the inherent conflict of interest that has everyone agog with horror at him determining her fate.


276 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:44 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Peach

Peach, I think all simple rehab efforts were stopped by Michael including keeping her from getting contractures from lying in bed.

And I think the docs recommended the stimulator be removed from her brain, the doc who put it in in California did from what I read, and M refused.

And swallowing therapy was thought to be of help and again refused.

This woman may have no prayer, indeed she has no prayer of a normal life but it seems just humane to keep trying to keep her from deteriorating. She is not comatose, is not in a PVS and is no worse off than a retarded kid with CP. It just doesn't seem right to starve her just because she is in bad shape when MS has so much suspicion attached to him. And I suspect the money issue, the parents wanting money, had more to do with MS living with them for a couple of years and money needed to care for her than some money hunger these people had.

I don't know about what is true here with so much stuff written, but if her parents will care for her and love her and MS has a new family, why not err on the side of that plan?


277 posted on 03/20/2005 1:53:48 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: marajade

Starvation is not a "natural" death.


278 posted on 03/20/2005 1:54:25 PM PST by Politicalmom (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.")
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To: Peach; Howlin
Here's a link. But I don't think there's a statute.... and if you still contend that he's not guardian ad litem, I'd like to know the name of the person who has filled that role the past couple of months.
279 posted on 03/20/2005 1:54:50 PM PST by Mamzelle (and how do you like your blue-eyed boy, mr. death?)
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To: marajade

divorce is always an option.


280 posted on 03/20/2005 1:55:15 PM PST by xsmommy
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