What argument? You mean the one where I posted facts and you posted feelings? If you want to argue facts, let's go.
If you want to talk feelings, use this and then get back to me when you feel better.
Posted on 03/20/2005 8:11:01 AM PST by A. Pole
What argument? You mean the one where I posted facts and you posted feelings? If you want to argue facts, let's go.
If you want to talk feelings, use this and then get back to me when you feel better.
Dear SwankyC,
"You and ol' '90% of Walmart's good are made in America' ToddsterPatriot dont like to accept fact."
First, I don't think that's what ToddsterPatriot posted a few posts back.
Second, I've refrained making any comments on ToddsterPatriot's assertions, and will continue to do so. It wasn't the point I addressed.
"You call it an anecdote, I'll call it reality."
And that's why you appear to be a bit reality-challenged, unable to distinguish between your own limited experience and the larger reality. It's analogous to saying that if you're unemployed, most people are probably unemployed.
"...but you're still trying to say they are making all of their vehicles here and it just isnt true."
At no time have I said this, or even implied it. In fact, if you were to re-read and actually comprehend what I quoted, you would have seen that:
"...actually make most of the vehicles that are sold in the US here in North America,..."
MOST means more than half. ALL means 100%. There is a substantial difference between more than half and 100%. Your inability to deal with reality seems to have spread even to your ability to comprehend what I wrote.
The only point that I've made is that at least Honda and Toyota make a lot of vehicles in North America, a significant proportion (apparently more than half) of those actually sold in the United States.
Do you dispute that?
If not, why do you persist? I haven't said anything more than that.
"That's all I got,..."
And it is very little, indeed. Bald assertions devoid of substantial evidence.
"...you're wrong and im not gonna argue with you like a child."
* chuckle *
That's how a five year-old argues - "You're wrong and I'm right." LOL. That really is how children argue.
Glad you can admit it. That's the first step toward recovery.
;-)
sitetest
You are funny. I gave the latest numbers for the same latest whole year for both countries - 2004 and you give 2003 number for Japan and partial 2005 for US.
Either way, a small overcrowded island without the resources should do much much worse than it is doing if the policies were inferior. You do not get it. I give you grade F+.
Yeah, you gave me numbers. I don't suppose you have a link to that number?
Either way, a small overcrowded island without the resources should do much much worse than it is doing if the policies were inferior.
Worse than 1.6% economic growth over the last 15 years? You socialists certainly have low standards.
Good grief. Is that why China is losing all those manufacturing jobs?
Actually, WalMart bought about $137.5 billion in American goods out of about $198 billion total. So that would be just under 70% American. About 7.5% Chinese, about 22.5% other.
I agree there are serious problems with free trade, but what does the author propose as an alternative?
What is the link between free trade and bankruptcy reform?
And these 373,000 college graduates who can't find jobs - what did they study? Sociology? Art History? Feminist Studies? Journalism?
Or did they study Accounting? Marketing? Engineering? Computer Science?
A'hem. Could it be that reflects precisely the introduction of Western manufacturing into China? And a real displacement effect is occurring. The new technology is not getting made here. Who is making all the newest, latest generation cell phones? The new LCD screens? The new plasma screens? The guts of all the latest-generation PC's and laptops? And servers? Switches? Circuit boards? Even semiconductors now.
And of course, there is the 'buggy-whip' industry they are taking over too... Who is making all those auto parts for new cars? GM wants to shift $10 billion a year over there... h'mmmm.
That is true.. It is starting now, however in 5 years it is going to be a hot item..
Got it. We don't build nuthin', nowheres, no how.
Are you aware how many aerospace engineers have been laid off in the U.S.? And how adverse the employment climate is relating to their hiring vis-a-vis H1-B's?
Figures that the Wizards of CATO are living in the Land of Oz....
Looks like Paul Craig Roberts to me.
Sounds like Paul Craig Roberts too.
Sort of like, a'hem, your jolly selves.
Oops, you found me out.
RE: Corporate outsourcers and their apologists presented the loss of manufacturing capability as a positive development. Manufacturing, they said, was the "old economy," whose loss to Asia ensured Americans lower consumer prices and greater shareholder returns.
Having dealt with this up close and personal, I offer the following commentary. In my case, there was essentially no choice. The competition started up a price war and many of them outsourced. It happened very fast and our shareholders were not very patient. Ideally, we would have figured out how to become more lean, reduce scrap and, siginificantly, greatly steepen our ramps to volume, quality and reliability on new products. But the impatient shareholders held the cards, and outsource we had to. If there is any moral to the story, it is that being a publicly owned company essentially sucks, from the standpoint of management span of control. However, from the standpoint of stock options, it has its appeal.
Poor Gríma, I mean Paul. He's a witless worm.
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