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Michael Schiavo: 'Come Down President Bush' (Terri's Husband is Getting Frustrated)
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 3.20.05 | William Levesque

Posted on 03/20/2005 7:51:55 AM PST by gopwinsin04

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To: PhiKapMom
"Still don't understand why Florida courts give him all the rights"

Just a wild guess, but I think it's because he's her husband.

"Don't know about anyone else, but when the guy shacked up with this woman and had two kids seems to me he should have been forced by the Courts to give up legal guardianship."

Ah. I see. So if Michael was a nice guy and hadn't "shacked up with this woman and had two kids", then he would retain legal guardianship and could order that her wish be fulfilled and have the feeding tube removed.

Your emotions in this case, therefore, are controlled more by your hatred of Michael rather than Terri's wishes. Wow. That's truly scary.

41 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:14 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: jocon307
So, that's the standard? She can't shake hands and say "hello!" so she should die?

That sums up Howard Dean and Micheal Moore too. Ma, where's my shotgun? ;)

42 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:21 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
How many other statesments like that are there.

It it is hard to believe this has been going on all these years.
43 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:50 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: robertpaulsen
The question is, why did he not bring it up before he received the $1.2 million settlement for her care, then spend ~$400,000 on his current attorney (Felos) to terminate her life?

Sorry. I can't agree with you.

44 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:52 AM PST by Maigrey (Prayer Warriors for Malachi Whitlock http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1356532/posts)
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To: robertpaulsen
"What if your spouse told you that he/she wouldn't want to live in a vegetative state and others stepped in to keep her that way? "

And what if your spouse didn't tell you (or anyone else for that matter) that he/she would rather die than live in a vegetative state? What if your spouse simply made that up to get rid of you? What if your true wish was to live (as is the case with most Catholics, and Terri is a Catholic), and your spouse was trying to kill you? Wouldn't it be nice if others stepped in on your behalf?

You do know, don't you, that the husband never "remembered" Terri saying that until after he'd won the huge monetary settlement. Once it was in hand, suddenly Terri became inconvenient, and anyway, he'd rather spend the money on his new girlfriend.

45 posted on 03/20/2005 8:28:10 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Calm down, Michael. This is not all about YOU. It's about Terri.


46 posted on 03/20/2005 8:30:04 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Feed Terri - Impeach Greer!!!)
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To: vaudine
"The idea that this LEGAL husband has sole rights to put this woman to death is ludicrous, given that he has everything to gain from her death."

Isn't that true in every case? Husband or wife?

What should we do instead? Put it to a vote every time some spouse is in a persistent vegetative state? A nationwide USA Today poll?

Sound to me like you don't trust your spouse to do the right thing. May I suggest a living will, giving that authority to someone else, maybe your parents?

47 posted on 03/20/2005 8:32:00 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Mamzelle

Michael Schiavo is an RN at the Pinellas jail


48 posted on 03/20/2005 8:33:39 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: robertpaulsen
You have a slight point and barely that.
Since she had no living will, what her desires are cannot be determined objectively. Under normal circumstances a reliable family member or members might be the best witness. However a husband that pocketed her designated rehab funds, who has been with another woman , has two kids with her and only " remembered " her statement 7 years later is not quite a valid arbiter of what is best for her .If you did not know these facts maybe you'll feel differently. If you did your as bad as him.
49 posted on 03/20/2005 8:34:33 AM PST by avile
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To: robertpaulsen
I've heard, to the point of wanting to weep from the boredom of it..."I wouldn't want to live like that."

So write a Living Will, Already!!

You know what I really think you're saying--I think it could translate to..."I don't want her to live like that."

"Such infirmity disgusts me. Makes me uncomfortable. I shouldn't have to feel that way. It's Terri's fault I feel that way. Make her go away.

"I can't handle looking at her. Ick. Make her go away.

Oh, and I'm still a Really Good Person for feeling this way. I just have a heart as big as all outdoors. I'm really just concerned for Terri.

Give me a break, and all the rest that want to keep chiming in with how YOU wouldn't want to live that way. It isn't about YOU.

50 posted on 03/20/2005 8:34:57 AM PST by Mamzelle (and how do you like your blue-eyed boy, mr. death?)
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To: rintense
"All he has to do is divorce and move on with his life."

He could, sure. But it was her wish that she not live like a vegetable. Doesn't he have a duty to carry out that wish for her?

Ah, but you know better. That's NOT what she wants, huh?

51 posted on 03/20/2005 8:36:46 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: SouthernFreebird
LOL the complete madness of this case makes me think the entire country has just gone insane.

Judge Greer needs to be arrested..

He has no authority to issue any such court order starving an American citizen, who is guilty of no crime, to death and depriving them of the right to live.

He is insane and anyone who thinks he has any power issuing such a court order starving an American citizen to death needs to have their head checked.

He can issue a court order stating that the entire state of Florida be covered in chocolate fudge if he wants or that all the homosexuals be launched into orbit from Cape Canaveral.

Do you have any conceivable idea how ridiculous this entire thing is? Sometimes I wonder if the entire country has gone completely insane.

Returning to a Culture of Life

52 posted on 03/20/2005 8:37:32 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: miss marmelstein
Michael Schiavo


53 posted on 03/20/2005 8:38:40 AM PST by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: gopwinsin04

Correct.

I wish W would take the offer -- and bring with him the host of specialists who have said she's better off than the death squads say.

Dan
www.bibchr.blogspot.com


54 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:06 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: A.A. Cunningham

"Maybe Michael "When is that bitch gonna die?" Schiavo will show the President the ring he had made out of Terris' engagement and wedding rings, if he visits."


His 'comments' seem to have changed slightly! The following is from the latest article (does this mean he plans to sit there at her side for the 10 days-more that it takes for her to succumb?

"Schiavo said he was going to stay at his wife's side through the entire ordeal and said he wouldn't back down in his fight to have her wishes carried out."


55 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:13 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: rintense; robertpaulsen

Why hasnt or doesnt he divorce her and just cut his ties with her? Would there be any payback or the settelment $$.

Im all for his rights to uphold his wifes wishes not to be kept alive artificially, but cant see withholding nurishment.

This is a big mess!

Why doesnt a court ordered docter examine her and confirm her PRESENT condition? Were any of the video or pictures of her recently shot with todays paper in the shot so we can see that it was actually shot within the last few days?

.....what a mess!


56 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:43 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: MizSterious

"What if your true wish was to live (as is the case with most Catholics...[?]"

My father was a very sick man (diabetes) for a very long time, he was also a deeply faithful Catholic. When he was really bad, and the end was near, my mother talked with the doctor about whether or not they'd put him on a respirator,etc. My mother was set against it, but the doctor said "I'm very sorry, but your husband has already made his wishes known, he wants us to do everything to sustain his life as long as possible." She was very peeved, as were my brothers, only I supported his decision.

There was certainly no money of any kind involved with this.

When my brother was dying of AIDS some of his friends started to consider giving him a "push out the door" as it were. Luckily I and the other gal who had medical proxy were dead (no pun!) set against that. He had no artificial aid of any kind, he only lived about 30 days after he got bad.

That is why I call this attitude utilitarianism. If you can't be all up and productive you should be dead. I completely reject that idea. As my brother's friend said: Dying may indeed by a process and we shouldn't interfere with it.

Her view was not, insofar as I know, based on religious belief.


57 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:50 AM PST by jocon307
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To: tsmith130

Try this:

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/20/Tampabay/Schiavo___Come_down__.shtml


58 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:52 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Kinda has a Tony Soprano thing going on


59 posted on 03/20/2005 8:40:02 AM PST by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: BibChr
and bring with him the host of specialists who have said she's better off than the death squads say.

I have a question -- and I mean it sincerely.

Suppose he does that; and suppose they AGREE with the current rulings.

What then?

60 posted on 03/20/2005 8:40:25 AM PST by Howlin
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