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To: JFK_Lib
I spent about fifteen years studying the cult of saints and relics, including all the relics that were brought to the West from Constantinople. Relics are kept for their intercessory power and careful records relate all of the associated miracles. If there are no miracles, then they have no real value. But I am sure that there are lots of testimonials in the archives of Turin.

I am just saying that these scientists are trying to change the rules of proof in a way that has little interest to the church. Surely, you realize that there is no way that carbon dating can, in fact, prove that the image is Jesus. The problem is that the "chain of custody" was broken. So, science is a dead end, here. It can only debunk. I suggest you look at what the church says. Its standards are very rigorous.

34 posted on 03/19/2005 2:52:54 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

I understand that any dating, even to the 1st century would not necarily prove it is Jesus' Shroud. But I think the circumstantial evidence narrows it down pretty tight.

I respect the churches authority and competence, but I still feel like scientific standards of evidence are a bit different in that it looks solely at natural evidence that can be replicated, unlike, say Fatima.

So it is a tougher arena, and it intrigues me that the evidence thus far seems to point at something unnatural occuring - ie the tomb was emptied within a few days of JEsus' burial or the Shroud would have decayed.


35 posted on 03/19/2005 4:07:59 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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