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To: Pipeline; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; yer gonna put yer eye out; appalachian_dweller; ...
a You GOTTA be KIDDING ME!(((PING)))!!!

Ok, and an apology for the Moorish Invasion of Spain, the invasion of eastern Europe, the excesses of the Ottomans, crimes against the Lebanese Christians and Copts in Egypt all deserve an apology,

oh, and while they're at it: HOW ABOUT A BIG APOLOGY FOR 9/11!

17 posted on 03/19/2005 4:22:17 AM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: Former Dodger
Thanks for the ping FD.

The only apology these scrum are going to get from me weights 124 grains and will be traveling at about 1,450 fps.

I have other apologies too:
125 grain apology traveling 1,700 fps
130 grain apology traveling 2,800 fps
147 grain apology traveling 3,100 fps

I'm sorry muslims crashed planes into our buildings.
I'm sorry muslims killed an innocent family in NJ.
I'm sorry muslims don't have the intelligence to think for themselves and realize that islam is an evil death cult.

Yea, I'm sorry. I can't wait to apologize.
34 posted on 03/19/2005 5:12:11 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Mark 13:7 - And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled)
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To: Former Dodger

OH MY GOD I don't believe the absolute GALL!

Please, I hope there is no Dell like cave in!!!

TOO (bad word here) MUCH!!


61 posted on 03/19/2005 6:44:32 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Former Dodger
Thx for the ping, FD.

I suggest it is not an apology they are seeking. Considering the war is no longer a clash of arms but a clash of civilizations, looks like they are testing and probing the Catholic defenses as represented by the Vatican.

74 posted on 03/19/2005 7:23:02 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Former Dodger

Yeah, they have to be kidding, I hope they aren't holding their breath waiting for the apology.


78 posted on 03/19/2005 8:44:21 AM PST by swordfish71 (There is no storm like the PERFECT ROVIAN STORM!)
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To: Former Dodger
October 1914 Turkish troops and Kurdish tribesmen invade and plunder the villages of Urmia. January 2-10, 1915 Plundering and destruction of seventy of Urmia's villages, massacres in the plains. Unknown number casualties. "There was absolutely no human power to protect these unhappy people from the savage onslaught of the invading hostile forces. It was an awful situation. At midnight the terrible exodus began; a concourse of 25,000 men, women, and children, Assyrians and Armenians, leaving cattle in the stables, all their household hoods and all the supply of food for winter, hurried, panic-stricken, on a long and painful journey to the Russian border, enduring the intense privations of a foot journey in the snow and mud, without any kind of preparation...It was a dreadful sight,...many of the old people and children died along the way." (The Death of a Nation, pp. 119-120) Statement of German Missionaries "The latest news is that four thousand Assyrians and one hundred Armenians have died of disease alone, at the mission, within the last five months. All villages in the surrounding district with two or three exceptions have been plundered and burnt; twenty thousand Christians have been slaughtered in Armenia and its environs. In Haftewan, a village of Salmas, 750 corpses without heads have been recovered from the wells and cisterns alone. Why? Because the commanding officer had put a price on every Christina head.... In Dilman crowds of Christians were thrown into prison and driven to accept Islam." (The Death of a Nation, pp. 126-127) Urfa (Urhai) Twenty years after the harsh memories of the New Years massacres, the new Assyrian inhabitants relived history when they were ordered to surrender their weapons to the Ottomans and Kurds. Cognizant of their recent history, they refused to comply with the Ottoman demand. The Ottoman army, under the leadership of two German officers and armed with heavy artillery, attacked and destroyed the fort (Qalaa) and its Assyrian and Armenian inhabitants. Fortunately, few did survive when the attack ceased at the government's behest to pardon the Christians. February 23, 1915 More than sixty Assyrian notables were taken from the French mission and shot by Turkish troops. Among these was Mar Dinkha, a bishop of the Assyrian Church. "Here, then, in the ancient city of Tebarma, the scene of many previous martyrdoms, an Assyrian bishop is being led to be executed. He was not alone. He had a large company of his Christian brethren with him. What Mar Shimun Bar Sabaee, the first Assyrian Patriarch had done, during the persecution of Shapur the Magi, in the fourth century, was now to be gloriously repeated by another bishop of his church in the twentieth century. The Moslems had established a rule in asking of their victims to deny Christ and embrace Islam in order to save their lives. But weaker men and women than this body of prisoners had already chosen to be burned alive, and to be cut to pieces with aces, then deny their Redeemer! 'Be brave, take courage, be patient, falter not, be firm and look up. In a few moments we will be with Christ!' With such words he encouraged his companions in bonds, till they reached the end of their fatal journey, where they were all shot to death." (The Flickering Light of Asia, pp.49-51.) February 25, 1915 Turkish and Kurdish troops attacked the village of Gulpashan, one of the most prosperous villages of Urmia. Almost all of the men ware shot, and most of the women were violated. March 5, 1915 About 800 Assyrians who remained in Salamas, most of whom were old people, with some of the poorer and younger women, were gathered together and killed. April, 1915 Massacre in Gawar and other districts in Turkey. The number of martyrs is unknown. 1915 Tel Mozilt Twenty years later, the Turkish saviors of 1895 were now the attackers of the 600 Assyrian homes in cooperation with neighboring Kurdish tribes. After capturing the city, they took all the men they found between the ages of 12 and 70, a total of 475, and imprisoned them. The next morning, the prisoners were taken out in rows of four and shot. After some arguments between the Kurds and the Turkish officials on what to do with the young boys and girls left behind, the army decided to slay them as well. Approximately 1,500 children, among them Reverend Gabrial (the red-bearded priest), were murdered. Agha Ayoob Hamzah personally butchered the Priest. (Gorgis, Deacon Asman Alkass, Jirah Fi Tarikh Al-syrian, Trans. Subhi Younan. 1980. pp. 24). March 5, 1915 Turkish and Kurdish troops attacked their village of Gulpashan, one of the most prosperous villages of Urmia. Almost all of the men were shot, and most of the women were violated. pril 1915 Massacre in Gawar and other districts in Turkey. The number of martyrs is unknown. June, 1915 The Vali of Mosul begins attacks on the highlanders and destroys lower Tyari. The number of martyrs is unknown. Massacres at Sairt Djeudet Bey, Military Governor of Van, upon entering Sairt with 8,000 soldiers whom he himself called the "The Butchers' Battalion" (Kassab Tabouri), gave orders for the massacre of the Assyrians. "The Chaldean-Assyrian diocese of Sairt comprises, exclusive of the Chaldean-Assyrians of the town, more than thirty villages, not to count a large number of other villages inhabited by Jacobite-Assyrians, of whose number we are ignorant. All these prosperous villages were pillaged, looted and burned, those who dwelt therein being put the sword." The following is an almost complete list with the number of Chaldean-Assyrians inhabitants who were massacred: Sairt 2000 Sadagh 2000 Mar-Gourya 1000 Guedianes 500 Hadide 1000 Redwan 500 Dehok 500 Ketmes 1000 Der-Chemch 200 Piros 1000 Tentas 500 Tellimchar 1500 Telnevor 500 Benkof 200 Mar-Cmoune 300 Harevena 200 Der-Mar-Yacoub 500 Bekend 500 Ain-Dare 200 Berke 500 Archkanes 500 Galwaye 500 Goredj 500 Artoun (Altaktanie) 500 Der-Mazen 300 Der-Rabban 300 Charnakh 200 Artoun 1000
116 posted on 03/19/2005 3:22:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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