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Iceland to grant ex-chess champ Fischer citizenship (Has been dodging U.S. deportation since 1992)
ABC News (Australia) / Reuters ^
| March 18, 2005
Posted on 03/18/2005 7:22:38 PM PST by Stoat
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:22:39 PM PST
by
Stoat
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:23:55 PM PST
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
I'd love to see him go one on one with Kasparov.
To: Dan from Michigan
Kasparov wrote about him recently in the WSJ. Today Fischer is so warped he would not stand a chance.
I hope that Iceland knows what kind of antisemitic pig they are getting. I am sure that he will violate one of their laws in short order.
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:31:49 PM PST
by
Sthitch
To: Dan from Michigan
For "one on one with Kasparov" he's too old (62 vs. Kasparov's 42) and decades out of high level practice. Not fair.
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:32:34 PM PST
by
GSlob
To: Stoat
Isn't there a statute of limitation on this?
Bobby Fischer went to Yugoslavia to play chess, against the law, but not anything even close to Kerry meeting with the N. Vietnamese, and look where he is today.
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:35:03 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(http://www.helpterri.com)
To: Stoat
Reminds me of a quote from Monty Python: "Listen Cowboy, in Iceland its dark 6 months out of the year, and its cold enough to freeze your wrists off!" Let them have him.
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:42:19 PM PST
by
wingsof liberty
(Marines - the few, the proud, the best!!)
To: FairOpinion
Bobby Fischer went to Yugoslavia to play chess, against the law, but not anything even close to Kerry meeting with the N. Vietnamese, and look where he is today. Yeah, I'm having a hard time seeing Bobby Fischer as an arch criminal over this ordeal.
Furthermore, as a free person, I am uncomfortable with my government telling me the countries I am prohibited to visit. As long as I am not engaging in seditious or treasonous activity it should really be none of their concern where I choose to travel.
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posted on
03/18/2005 7:49:57 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: Drew68
Bobby Fischer went to Yugoslavia to play chess, against the law, but not anything even close to Kerry meeting with the N. Vietnamese, and look where he is today.
Yeah, I'm having a hard time seeing Bobby Fischer as an arch criminal over this ordeal.
Well, that's because Kerry wasn't playing chess with the North Vietnamese Commies, he was just playing footsie.
To: FairOpinion
Isn't there a statute of limitation on this? Apparently not, as the U.S. deportation order is still in effect.
Bobby Fischer went to Yugoslavia to play chess, against the law, but not anything even close to Kerry meeting with the N. Vietnamese, and look where he is today.
If we are going to use utterly corrupt, treasonous and despicable politicians as the reference standard of what constitutes appropriate jurisprudence, then in order to be consistent we would also need to free all rapists (Clinton as precedent) remove perjury as an offense (Clinton as precedent) force all people who are unable to care for themselves to die (Terri Schiavo as precedent) remove complicity in a wrongful and preventable death as an offense (Ted Kennedy as precedent) and a host of others.
Unfortunately, being 'above the law' is one of the numerous perks that corrupt politicians enjoy, and exploit to the maximum ability that is possible.
(I probably shouldn't have included Terri Schiavo in the above list, but she weighs heavily upon my mind today, as I'm sure is the case for everyone else here as well)
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posted on
03/18/2005 8:03:19 PM PST
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
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posted on
03/18/2005 8:23:03 PM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: Stoat
Iceland.....Jail...
Iceland.....Jail...
Iceland.....Jail...
Hmmm... I'd have to flip a coin on that one. Is eating a bullet an option?
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posted on
03/18/2005 8:55:58 PM PST
by
Luddite Patent Counsel
("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
To: Mad Mammoth
Kerry wasn't playing chess with the North Vietnamese Commies, he was just playing footsie.No, Kerry was just playing TREASON
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posted on
03/18/2005 9:22:33 PM PST
by
BILL_C
To: Stoat
Good for Iceland. This is ridiculous. Why can't we just let this harmless crazy guy alone? God forbid someone would play a chess match in Yugoslavia. Horror of horrors.
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posted on
03/18/2005 9:33:21 PM PST
by
ValenB4
To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Iceland.....Jail...
Iceland.....Jail...
Iceland.....Jail...
Hmmm... I'd have to flip a coin on that one. I'm wondering if you might be thinking of Greenland? If it weren't for it's Socialism, fish-based economy, anti-Americanism, gun-unfriendliness, rampant alcoholism, lack of highspeed internet, lousy cuisine and extra shipping costs for eBay purchases I wouldn't mind living there at all, but bear in mind that I'm in Seattle so most places will be a step up :-)
There are actually some nice parts of Iceland, most having to do with the scenery however:
Iceland.is - Gateway to Iceland
Is eating a bullet an option?
Not in Japan where he is now (you should see the visiting Japanese people at the gun ranges here in the USA...they love it! They know they can't do it when they get back home so they make the most of it while they're here) and probably not in Iceland either, as they're down on stuff like individual liberty and so on and so forth.
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posted on
03/18/2005 9:48:48 PM PST
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
We can't stop millions of Hispanics and can't even estimate the number of Muslim terrorists crossing our southern border every year, but we make a federal case of one crazy old man playing a chess match in Yugoslavia. The time has come to let this issue rest.
Bill
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posted on
03/18/2005 10:00:50 PM PST
by
WFTR
(Liberty isn't for cowards)
To: Stoat
I play out Fisher's games at home to relax (along with Kasparov's, Morphy's, and Sanitaries). I've followed Bobby's career since (my) childhood, remembering the thrill my brother and I had watching him defeat Spassky and the Russian Machine. His increased irrationality over the years--exemplified by his vicious anti-semitism--breaks my heart. He, like Morphy, like Alekhine, and innumerable other grandmasters, fell prey to the mental instability that seemingly strikes them down at a ratio ten times that of the ordinary population.
Could he defeat Kasparov? Not now, probably not ever if you magically matched them both at their peak (although Kasparov, recently retired, will probably be at his peak for a few more years to come). Purely conjecture, of course.
Bobby was a beacon for the free world in the darkest days of the cold war. For that reason alone, whatever his current mental state, I think he should receive a presidential pardon. I mean, geez, Clinton practically gave pardons out like candy to lowlifes who made no contribution to their country. While having him back would mean occasionally listening to his hateful, disoriented ranting and raving, I feel it's the least we could do. It would kind of be like keeping a crazy but harmless relative at home rather than in a faraway institution.
To: Rembrandt_fan
I meant 'Santasiere' as in Anthony Santasiere, not 'Sanitaries'. Blame it on the spell checker.
To: Drew68
If we have sunk to the level of declaring Bobby Fischer a criminal...then perhaps we have misplaced our priorities in life. I see an awful lot of folks talking big on Sunday political shows...and I don't see alot being done in the midst of the work-week. Same story.
I'd rather waste our police, intelligence and judical powers...on Ossama and his buddies...than go after Fischer. We simply aren't serious about getting the real threats to Americans or our friends.
To: pepsionice
No one arbitrarily 'declared' Fischer a criminal. He knew before the match with Spassky, funded by a Yugoslav multimillionaire, that he was violating US law. He made it worse when he refused to pay taxes on the million dollars won by (re)defeating Spassky. In fact, Bobby literally spit on the government notice pointing out his tax 'arrearage' during an international press conference. He committed major felonies. Those charges weren't pulled out of the air.
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