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Feeding Tube Being Removed: Greer Gives Order
MSNBC

Posted on 03/18/2005 10:41:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Greer gives order


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; culturewar; deathpenaltycase; eugenics; fuhrergreer; godhavemercy; greerisanazi; greerusurper; lifevsdeath; michaellies; nocerebralcortex; parentsrights; saveterri; saveterriorg; schiavo; secularhumanism; stopkilers; terri; terriisalive; terrischiavo
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To: Travis McGee

Right to Die is easy to converty into Duty to Die.

It is the equal of saying that she has a duty to die so her soon to be ex-husband can go on with HIS life and his new child with another woman.


361 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:04 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?
Huge difference IMO. A fetus has everything to live for. A fetus is only temporarily in a vegatative state with a feeding tube.

According to some medical testimony, Terri also could have something to live for if she received the therapy her husband has refused for ten years. But when you say it's different because a fetus has "everything to live for," you're on a very slippery slope. What if a baby is born with a handicap that is treatable (let's say cleft palate). Or even if the baby has Down's syndrome. Assume the father is unknown. The mother is a prostitute/crack addict/child abuser. Should the child be fed? Doesn't sound like that baby has much to live for. Yet who would support refusing a feeding tube for that newborn?

362 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:13 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: ctdonath2; All

That is what I thought. He is trying to save his sorry a**..


363 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: calex59

She is not brain dead! Brain dead people do not react to sound, do not move their eyes to follow a balloon, do not shed tears when spoken to, etc. Where do you get your information, MSNBC????


364 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:21 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: Churchillspirit
Does insurance cover the side effects of bulimia/anorexia?

What about a 6 foot 6 man throwing a tiny woman to break her back? How do you explain the broken back. This occurred when Michael was with Terri.

The hospice does not provide medical care as a hospital would. It is for terminal patients, which Terri is not.

Finally, Michael was given $2 million to care for Terri, which he has used to buy lawyers to kill her.

Michael has a common law wife as well as Terri and two children by the common law wife.

365 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:30 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for Justice for Terri Schiavo -- let her live!)
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To: calex59
You people really should read the constitution. States have powers over and above the feds. The feds have very few powers relating to the internal workings of a state. The state judge has every right to overrule the federal judge and that is the way it should be.

Except that's not the way it has been going. The FEDs have excerpted state powers all over the place. I can imagine the pandemonium on the left if this decision effected 1 of their pet ideas.

366 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:34 AM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! Drill ANWR !)
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To: MonroeDNA

Well, you said it , "Keep alive."

...keep alive

The only alternative is...to Kill.

Kill...Murder...to unlawfully take a life.

Mercy killing... sounds so sweet, so good, almost like Pro-choice sounds to some people.


367 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:39 AM PST by limitedgov
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To: OPS4

God bless America? The whole affair is embarrassing for the United States. Why don´t you guys have thought about these cases before? This is one of the cases where I am really glad that we inferior Europeans have a codified law and not common law.


368 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:47 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: MonroeDNA

I would not do it to my mother because she has living will. I would respect her wishes as she has clearly outlined in a LEGAL document. Terri has no such document. I've said things I didn't mean before.


369 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:49 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: Cagey
I think Karen Ann Quinlan lived for another nine years after her life support was removed.

Did they consider feeding tubes to be life support back then?

370 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:53 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?

How helpful of you to decide Terri doesn't have anything to live for and could never recover, Herr Kommissar.


371 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:54 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Netizen

The fallacy of that entire argument ("Terri told me...") is that, in a criminal case, Greer would rule that second-hand testimony is hearsay and not admissible in court.


372 posted on 03/18/2005 11:22:57 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?

What about crack babies who will be born into abject poverty to women with criminal histories? A lot of misguided souls would believe that baby won't have anything to live for...


373 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:02 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: gopwinsin04

I am so sick to my stomach over this. I was just cheering about 1 hour ago because it was NOT going to be removed. How can people do this? I just don't understand it?


374 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:03 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: Mygirlsmom
She has no life insurance policies and her parents have said over and over that all Terri's health insurance money was gone many years ago. Except for possible money on book or movie deals he could make on her name and life story, there is nothing in it for Michael.

I can only speculate that if he were to divorce her he would no longer have the rights to her story. Those rights would go to her parents.

376 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:38 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Monroe - Do you force feed a baby? This goes all the way to the womb. If this is acceptable, so is abortion.

So is infanticide.

377 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Noah_Si al_178?
Huge difference IMO. A fetus has everything to live for.

Always? Sometimes a child suffers serious, but not fatal, injuries while being born or immediately afterward. Princeton Ethicist Peter Singer believes the parents of such a child should have the option of killing a newborn within 30 says of birth. Do you agree? If not, why not, and how is that different from Terri Schaivo's case?

378 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:58 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Cagey
If I recall, the Quinlan family appealed first to the Vatican and the Vatican agreed that removing "extraordinary means" of life support was acceptable and stated that nutrition was not extraordinary, but ordinary support of life. And they requested she continue to be nourished after the mechanical life support was removed. After the requested guidance from the Vatican for their religious convictions, they appealed to the State of New Jersey and won the right to let their daughter die.

Thank you. I knew the answers. I wanted those who were born after us to see what sort of precedent might have been accomplished...that brought us to this day.

379 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:58 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: oceanperch

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! GOD I HOPE SO!!!


380 posted on 03/18/2005 11:23:59 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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