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To: carton253
UN Resolution 242 is the reason for the withdrawal…As for your arguments in your written paragraph 2 - I believe you are arguing for points I made my reply….Perhaps, you need another argument besides the tired old chestnut of American culpability in forcing Israel to do what Israel doesn't want to do. I really don't think that dog hunts anymore.

I wasn’t disagreeing with you, though I don’t think 242 is the reason for the withdrawal. IMO it’s the first stage of an essentially unilateral solution to the conflict, in the event that a “peace partner” doesn’t emerge. Presuming the Palestinians refuse to disarm the terror groups, I’d expect to see the delineation of defacto borders in the West Bank as well, accompanied by a similar withdrawal. As to the US, I don’t think we’re pressuring Israel in Gaza, that’s essentially an Israeli initiative, though I’m sure GWB is pleased. My point was that the fact that the new state must be Judenrein argues against the probability that a successful “democratic” state will emerge, defining “democratic” as preferably pro-Western but at least non-expansionist, rather than the terrorists get to elect a terrorist government.

8 posted on 03/18/2005 8:31:07 AM PST by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson

To Carton253...Resolution 242, and all other resolutions, became null and void from the moment the Palestinians began strapping on bomb belts and blowing up Israelis four years ago. Through this terror war against Israel, which has taken 1,500 Jewish lives, plus thousands more permanently wounded, the Arabs have forfeited any rights to 242 and other such legalisms. The author, Jack Engelhard, makes his point swiftly and brilliantly, as usual. What did you have for breakfast?


9 posted on 03/18/2005 2:52:00 PM PST by Dave123
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