[unlearner]

"But, the reality is girls (and boys) this age are talking about and doing this stuff. We can either shelter them from it completely by keeping them at home, killing the tv, not letting them have any friends. Or we can confront the issues where they are."

It needs to be discussed WITH DISCRETION at appropriate maturity levels by parents or someone the parents trust.

You can read the whole article and click the link to the official "Bible" website. It is very clear to me the claims of this article are true.

The discussions they are including is pornographic. The Bible avoids graphic descriptions of sexual sins.

Eph.5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

2Pet.2:8 For that righteous man (Lot) dwelling among them (Sodom and Gomorrah), in SEEING and HEARING, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds.

The same thing is happening to righteous people today. Look what happened to Lot. He lost his wife, and his daughters were corrupted by living in that place. He originally moved there because it was a nicer place to live. He was even a well-respected leader of the place. Yet look at what it cost him.

The Bible teaches to confess and expose sins, but not to relive them with graphic pictures and words (seeing and hearing, as the earlier verse mentions). It is enough to name a sin (the name God gives it). It is enough to say, "I committed... adultery, or theft, or murder." It is not appropriate to go into details about how the sin was committed ("I saw such and such beautiful features of this women with such and such colored hair and a lovely tan and wearing such and such that went all the way to...")

This pseudo-bible does the latter, and is targeted toward young, vulnerable girls.

I intend to bring this to the attention of my local church. And any believers I know will be encouraged to /avoid buying anything from Zondervan (including the NIV), because these people are not helping the cause of Christ.

[Corin Stormhands]

It needs to be discussed WITH DISCRETION at appropriate maturity levels by parents or someone the parents trust.

Agreed. But just from reading the article and this thread you can see too many parents who would just bury their heads in the sand. The reality is in today's culture that if you wait for the "appropriate maturity level" to discuss some of these things, then you're way too late.

Like I said, I haven't seen this work, so I won't endorse OR condemn it.

My point is that any parent or youth leader who thinks this material is too graphic, too mature for 13-16 year-olds isn't paying attention.

And BTW, I read the article. I saw no reference to graphic pictures.

[pro610]

AMEN!
Don,t forget to include Harper Collins.
Harper Collins Avon is the publisher of the Satanic Bible.
In case you did not know already.

[jude24]

The Bible avoids graphic descriptions of sexual sins.

Re-read Song of Solomon, Ezekiel 23, and Hosea, and tell me that those aren't "graphic."