[farmer18th]

Wake up. Kids, yes even the "good Christian kids" are talking about and are doing this stuff.

They wouldn't be "good Christian kids" if they were doing this stuff-by definition.

I do agree that the church isn't showing much fruit, but that is precisely because we engage in pathetic imitations of popular culture in order to appear "hip" to our children. Our children need to be educated, not pandered to. You need to turn off the television, pull your kids from public school, and start teaching. Teenagers who engage in "this kind of stuff" should be disfellowshiped from the church, and removed from the communion of other Christians--JUST AS PAUL TOLD US.

[Corin Stormhands]

Teenagers who engage in "this kind of stuff" should be disfellowshiped from the church, and removed from the communion of other Christians--JUST AS PAUL TOLD US.

Some of us still think our teenagers are children.

Toss 'em out on the street? Yeah, that's a Christian attitude for you.

Remember Jesus said "the well need no Physician."

And Jesus wouldn't toss them out.