Virginia lab focus of anthrax scare - "We know that there was anthrax in that sample"

The day after the latest anthrax scare, public officials focused on the role of a private Richmond laboratory and its powerful client, the U.S. Department of Defense, in a slow-moving response to what could have been a threat to hundreds of government workers.

The negative results of additional tests taken from a Pentagon mail facility and a Defense Department mailroom in Fairfax County have prompted questions about the source of the anthrax. The positive results came from a swab of a 2-foot square filter last Thursday that was tested by Commonwealth Biotechnologies Inc., based in Chesterfield's Gateway Center.

For reasons that remain unclear, the Defense Department didn't know about the possible contamination until Monday morning, almost four days after the sample was taken. Federal health, state and local officials didn't know until that afternoon, at about the same time an outdated sensor at another Defense Department mailroom sounded in Fairfax County and led to a lockdown of thousands of employees.

A second test of the Pentagon filter proved positive late Monday, but since then, no signs of anthrax have been uncovered at either site, said Glenn Flood, a spokesman for the Defense Department.

"We need some assurances that high-profile facilities such as the Pentagon have the best-available systems and procedures in place so they can quickly identify potential threats," Warner said.

Rep. James P. Moran, D-8th, whose district includes the Pentagon and the Fairfax facility at the Skyline Towers, said he has written Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, asking for details about the Pentagon response and why the Pentagon did not immediately notify the federal Department of Homeland Security.

"It seems that the Pentagon operates on a need-to-know basis, and they think they're the only ones who need to know," Moran said.

"Obviously, there's a lot of work that's going to go on to determine whether or not it's real or a contaminant," said Jim Pearson, director of Virginia's Division of Consolidated Laboratory Services.

"We know that there was anthrax in that sample. We just don't know where the anthrax was introduced - was it from the filter or was it something that got picked up after it was sampled?"

So many interesting tidbits. I just looked at my notes which I'm posting below for other freepers who might be interested. The note I wanted wasn't there.

But Davis said something in her book that in a little known fact about McVeigh before he was killed: He gave an interview and said something about his brotherhood with Iraq. He sympathized with them and hated Desert Storm.

My notes:

The Middle East connections to the Oklahoma City Bombing

John Doe #2 worked for a Palestinian doctor who contributed to the PLO. The Palestinian doctor ran a business called Salman Properties (remember Salman Pak in Iraq).

John Doe #2 is Hussain Hashein Al –Hussaini, an ex-Iraqi solder. His face and tattoo match exactly to the photo circulated right after the blast. His car matches exactly.
Two Ryder truck employees finger Al-Hussaini as being with McVeigh when he rented the Ryder truck.

The FBI never officially cleared Al-Hussaini.

6,000 ex-Iraqi soldiers moved here after the Gulf War and were given only a cursory examination into their background.

Al Hussaini's tattoo is that of an Iraqi Republican Guard intel service located in the Salman Pak area, Unit 999, which was tasked with clandestine operations at home and abroad

Daina, the only victim who lived to tell of John Doe 2 exiting the bomb truck, identified him. During the 12 hour rescue operation to free her, she spoke of the yellow moving van parked in front of the building. She described John Doe in the same manner as other witnesses.

Larry Johnson, former CIA analyst and deputy director of counterterrorism for the US Department of State and Colonel Patrick Lang, former chief of human intelligence for the Defense Intelligence Agency have said they believe Jayna Davis and her reportinog on this matter.

Same with Laurie Mylroie, Middle East expert, Clinton’s terrorism expert and best selling author, an adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

The Wall Street Journal dedicated months to the critical examination of every facet of Davis’s research and endorsed Davis.

The former director of the CIA, James Woolsey, said: ”When the full stories of these two incidents (1993 WTC bombing and the 1995 OKC bombing) are finally told, those who permitted the investigations to stop short will owe big e xplanations to these two brave women. And the nation will owe them a debt of gratitude.”

Larry Johnson: Without a doubt, there is a middle eastern tie to the OKC bombing.

Gas station employee identified Al-Hussaini as the person who gassed up the Ryder truck prior to the bombing.

Cactus motel – John Doe #2 stayed there. Before the blast, for several days employees noticed an overpowering stench in the parking lot which they found came from the Ryder truck. They saw Timony McVeigh with a middle eastern man later identified as Al-Hussaini. Owner and employees saw McVeigh several times over the course of the weeks before the blast in the company of several ME men, including Al-Hussaini.

Al Hussaini had no alibi. He testified on the stand in a lawsuit against Davis and her television station. He was by this time on anti-psychotic medications. He said voices inside his head whispered “You are John Doe #2”. He admitted he visited a bar where he was seen with McVeigh. He named the bar. The problem is, the bar’s name was never used in any newspaper or television reports to protect the witnesses.

Yossef Bodansky, Director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare endorses Davis and all the information in her book.

Immediately after the bombing the ME network began collecting money for a defense fund for their “brothers” involved in the OKC bombing.

Bodansky warned law enforcement before the OKC blast of a coming jihad that would strike the heartland of America. He had word they would use “Two Lily Whites”. Lily whites in the lexicon of the intel community refers to operates who have no criminal history and no obvious ties to ME terror organizations.

The London-based al-Quds al-Arabi Arabic newspaper reported that the Islamist terrorist leadership chose this timely opportunity to openly boast of responsibility for the first WTC 1993 bombing and the Oklahoma bombing.\

Bodansky wrote that not only is al-Quds al-Arabi a highly respected Islamist newspaper, but the editor, Abdul-Bari Atwan, is also personally close to Osama bin Laden.

McVeigh’s attorneys subpoena’s Davis to testify. She called Bodansky and told him that the prior warnings of the OKC bombing that he issued through the Congressional Task Force were not turned over to McVeigh’s lawyers. If it was not an oversight, then withholding the alerts could constitute obstruction of justice or a mistrial.

Bodansky told her “You assure the judge that you are confident that Person A, B, C, and D (Middle Eastern suspects) were involved in the bombing because the Congressional Task Force has confirmed your findings.”

FBI agent David Vogels has said “Jayna Davis was giving us a warning back as early as 1997 and we didn’t do anything with it. We just refused to that the documents.”

David Schippers worked on mob control for Robert Kennedy and was the House Impeachment attorney. He believes Jayna Davis and has independently confirmed her work.

Bodansky and Schipper shared information with the Congressional Task Force about Islamic terrorists working in this country and specifically were involved in the OKC bombing. They ignored the evidence. There are “too many bodies” both have said for the case to be re-investigated. Those who failed us: The FBI and Congress

Schippers tried to contact Ashcroft in June 2001 to present the volumes of ME involvement in the OKC bombing. He said to the FBI spokesperson “If nothing is done, I’m afraid these terrorists are going to below up lower Manhattan.”

The nexus between 4/19 (OKC bombing) and 9/11:

In November 1997,, Al Hussaini confided to his psychiatrists that he was contemplating quitting his job at Logan International Airport because “If something were to happen there, I would be a suspect.” He was working there on 9/11 and worked in the food handling portion of the airport; federal investigators theorized food suppliers secretly planted the box cutters the 9/11 hijackers used to subdue the flight crews and passengers.

Three 9/11 hijackers stayed atht eh same hotel – Cactus motel. Owners id’d Atta, Al-Shehhi and Maussaoui. They were in town they told the motel owner for flight lessons.

John Gibson asked Larry Johnson if he and his CIA friends believe the Jayna Davis account of the OKC bombing is legitimate. “Absolutely. There is just not one witness. You are talking about 23 people. Your’e talking about at least 10 people who put McVeigh with Al-Hussaini before the OKC bombing. Three people who id Al Hussaini at the Murry Building minutes before the bombing, getting gout of the Ryder truck. “

Agent Vogel: What the FBI did was unconscionable. The American people deserve the truth and the Bureau needed to look into this ME network here in Oklahoma City. If they had, maybe they would have come upon the network behind the 9/11 attacks”. He is disgusted with the FBI’s refusal to investigate the testimony memorialized in the 22 affidavits.

"The ineffective attack" February 2003:

"To: jpl; Mitchell; Shermy; genefromjersey; TrebleRebel
<< I wonder what was in the sealed letter to the judge that just got the FBI an extension of the stay. >>

<< You and me both. >>

I have been talking to people. What I hear - There was a ineffective anthrax attack at end of February of 2003.

The feds kept a lid on the copper pot, neither being desirous of stirring the ladle of publicity nor of admitting the failure to reduce US bio-vulnerability. The FBI are not just working on the 2001 spore-laden letters, but on prevention or mitigation of ongoing related criminality. The govt told this to the Judge who understood the additional delay to be a necessity of natl security. Any Judge would concur.

112 posted on 07/08/2004 8:22:30 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165194/posts?page=112#112

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"To: Battle Axe
<< Spill the beans on the ineffective attack..... >>

What I have heard-

Has been dubbed weaponised or semiweaponised.

Was thought to have encompassed both a letter campaign with threatening messages and an outdoor delivery trial.

Best estimate of date is 24 Feb 2003.

145 posted on 07/10/2004 1:46:36 AM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165194/posts?page=145#145

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"To: Khan Noonian Singh; genefromjersey; John Faust; Battle Axe; Allan; Shermy; TrebleRebel
So what observations have *you* noticed that you have not posted or that may not be known widely?
Here's something I noticed.

Khan, in a posting of yours in July, 2004, you made the claim that there was an "ineffective anthrax attack at end of February of 2003." You then elaborated, as follows:

"Has been dubbed weaponised or semiweaponised.
Was thought to have encompassed both a letter campaign with threatening messages and an outdoor delivery trial.
Best estimate of date is 24 Feb 2003." [Boldface added.]
Links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165194/posts?page=112#112 and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165194/posts?page=145#145
What I noticed was that the same date (Feb. 24, 2003) had occurred in an earlier FR discussion about the possible connection between the anthrax mailings and Internet worms/viruses. [I have placed all the instances of the date Feb. 24, 2003, in this posting in boldface, to make it easy to spot them.]

Before proceeding, a bit on the Nimda worm: It is known that the destructive Nimda worm was released on Sept. 18, 2001, exactly one week after the 9/11 attack (one week to the minute, as closely as one can tell). The destructiveness of this worm on the heels of 9/11 was sufficient that John Ashcroft made a televised statement on Sept. 18 that the worm was not known to be terrorist-related. Something no one knew on that date was that Sept. 18, 2001, was also the postmark date of the anthrax mailings to NBC News and the NY Post. In addition, a variant called Nimda.B was released some time between Oct. 5 and 9, 2001, matching the mailing date of the second set of anthrax letters. (Neither Nimda.B nor the second set of anthrax letters can be dated precisely.) This was observed in early November, 2001, but to this date it is not known whether Nimda and the anthrax mailings were really connected or whether it was a coincidence. (It's perhaps worthy of comment that both the Nimda and anthrax attacks involved putting a destructive payload in mail, whether e-mail or postal mail.)

Fast-forward two years, to late Dec., 2003. Frequent FR reincarnatee Van der Waals, who had expressed interest in the Nimda theory, noted that the Swen computer worm had been released on Sept. 18, 2003, and that a variant of Swen had been released on Oct. 9, 2003. These are the anniversaries of the two known anthrax mailings. The HTML used by the worm makes use of the code word "bacillus". Here's the link to this posting of Van der Waals: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042297/posts?page=37#37.

I replied to Van der Waals, in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042297/posts?page=40#40. Here's part of what I wrote at the time (Dec. 20, 2003):

... note that the worm called Swen is apparently the latest incarnation of the earlier Gibe worm, so 9/18/2003 and 10/9/2003 are just the latest two dates in a longer series of release dates.
So, here are three possibilities regarding Swen:

Possibility 1. The dates are just a coincidence. If you look, you can find many things that happened on Sept. 18, and some that happened on both Sept. 18 and Oct. 9 in some year.
Possibility 2. Someone who had nothing to do with the anthrax mailings intentionally picked the anniversary dates, just because he thought it would be a cool thing to do.
Possibility 3. Someone who had something to do with the anthrax mailings picked those dates on purpose. But why would he do that? Two possible reasons:
Possibility 3(a). Disinformation. This presupposes that the Nimda theory is false; the purpose of Swen would then be to divert resources into investigation of a (false) Nimda connection to the anthrax mailings.
Possibility 3(b). To draw attention to the earlier release dates of Gibe/Swen:

Mar. 4, 2002
Feb. 24, 2003
(There were also minor follow-up variants released on Mar. 16, 2003, and Mar. 24, 2003.)
Why draw attention to these earlier dates? I don't know, but that attention to the earlier Gibe-worm release dates is a predictable consequence of the later Swen releases on the anthrax anniversary dates. In this theory 3(b), it's as if someone is saying: "Look at the release dates!"
My guess is that it's just a coincidence - Possibility 1.
As you can see, the Feb. 24, 2003, release date of Gibe coincides with Khan Noonian Singh's purported "ineffective anthrax attack." Possibility 3(b) specifically pointed out the date Feb. 24, 2003, as a date of interest.

44 posted on 11/26/2004 12:18:00 AM PST by Mitchell"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284787/posts?page=44#44

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