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Governor wants junk cars off the road
AP ^ | 3/17/5 | Tom Chorneau

Posted on 03/17/2005 7:36:48 AM PST by SmithL

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41 posted on 03/17/2005 1:30:33 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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This is actually not a terrible idea. The vast majority of auto emissions today come from a relative handful of vehicles.

Late to the party but here's some data that debunks this BS. Here's a web site that provides some data based on mileage http://www.aircarecolorado.com/repair/acnews/apr99.htm

<5K miles 3g/mi

<50K miles 4.6g/mi

<70K miles 6.7g/mi

<80K miles 13g/mi

Looks like on average vehicles under 80K emit 5g/mi while vehicles over 80K emit 13g/mi. As a vehicles accumulates miles it's emissions go up. Not rocket science. There are roughly 30-40 million vehicles in California. Lets assume each drives 15K miles per year. That's probably conservative. The older vehicles probably accumulate significantly less mileage per year.

35 million vehicles x 15Kmiles/year x 5g/mi = 2.625x10^9 kilograms

15K vehicles x 15Kmiles/year x 13g/mi = 2.925x10^6 kilograms

The 15K "old" vehicles represent a 1% or less problem. The Governor wants to spend $150 MILLON on a 1% change in emissions. Most likely some of the vehicles turned in for the $1K aren't even on the road and are really parts cars for collectors. I bet a detailed study would come up with numbers <0.5%. No wonder California has a spending problem.

42 posted on 03/17/2005 1:53:30 PM PST by mpreston
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I have a toyota motor for $150 if you want it call me at
1-231-535-2682 ask for the tazman


43 posted on 04/06/2005 11:40:04 AM PDT by taz2582taz
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I need to buy a fleet of sub-$500 cars with emmission problems and move to California.


44 posted on 04/06/2005 11:42:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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I have a toyota motor for sale if you need it and want it please call 1-231-535-2682 and ask for the TAZMAN all i want for it is $150.00 so if you want it call me.


45 posted on 04/23/2005 9:56:54 AM PDT by taz2582taz
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See Post 45


46 posted on 04/23/2005 10:00:24 AM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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The camel's nose.

It will only be a matter of time before you will have to retire your vehicle based on age. Not performance, not how cleanly it burns, but just when it was made.

That way you can have one with all the black boxes and other totalitaran-friendly widgets which track your position and allow the right folks to listen to what is being said in your vehicle.

For now, I'll keep driving my fossils.

47 posted on 04/23/2005 10:03:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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