Bill aims to give police moral powers

http://www.news-journalonline.com/ ^ | 3 17 05 | JIM HAUG and VIRGINIA SMITH

[freepatriot32]

this is one of the worst ideas ive come across in a long time this is almost the dictionary definition of police state i think the church should have teach morals and the cops should stick to collecting bribe money from drug dealers and gangbangers

[freepatriot32]

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[Doctor Stochastic]

Perhaps there are too many taboos on sex and not enough on murder.

[beeler]

Oh, the humanity! Imagine a world where the police can stop two people from screwing on a public beach! Next thing you know, these fascists will be opening up a concentration camp in Daytona! I'm moving to Canada.

[mountn man]

For all the assumed adult beliefs of conservatives, anybody who thinks that cops shouldn't arrest people for f*#@ing on a public beach, needs to quit watching all the teeny bopper skin flicks and GROW UP
I remember an awful lot of people getting peaved about the janet jackson/justin timberlake fiasco.
I'd say shagging on a public beach with thousands of people around is wrong.
and the difference between an adult and a liberal democrat child, is that an adult stands for what is right.

[deepFR]

I agree, people complaining about government legislating morality are almost always the ones that force them to by not using common sense and recognizing considerations for the "rights" of those around them.

[ellery]

But under the existing laws, police can already arrest people having sex in public...IF someone is offended/complains. That seems like the right approach.

[Drammach]

/Sarcasm

In the News today:
An unidentified man robbed the 1st national bank of $1 million in cash...

As the criminal escaped, police were in a quandary, and confused..
It seems no one had actually complained, so they were unsure whether they could arrest him..

In the ensuing confusion the robber made a clean getaway..

/Sarcasm

[Gilbo_3]

motivated by two officers who witnessed a couple have sex at an adult movie theater.

That movie must've sucked...

[traviskicks]

"State Sen. Mike Fasano and State Rep. John Legg, both Republicans from New Port Richey, want to broaden the law by letting law enforcement officers decide whether an act is offensive. Their bill has the support of the Florida Sheriffs' Association."

They call themselves Conservatives? Who sets morals? God or Government?


"Some officers complain they have become powerless to enforce prostitution and indecency statutes, especially when they occur in nonpublic places such as strip clubs."

Good! Maybe these officers should spend their time on CRIME!

[eno_]

If a couple boinks on the beach and nobody complains, is it an offense?

What the police are worried about is people telling them, RIGHTLY, to keep their noses out of places they should not be.

Cops want to be obeyed. It is a sickness. The world would be much better when more people tell cops to shove it.

[mountn man]

There is this thing you obviously aren't familiar with, its called moral clarity. Its when something is wrong, and you do something about it, whether or not someone complains or not.

I'm not for cops with attitudes, just because they're cops. But I'm even less for people with attitudes against cops, just because they're cops. The police are here to enforce laws. Laws are needed because some people feel the need to infringe on other people.

We have things happening in the world that aren't right. This country has the moral clarity that most of the rest of the world doesn't have. People resent this country because of our moral clarity.

Having moral clarity and acting on it, despite what others think, they call that INTEGRITY

[spodefly]

State Sen. Mike Fasano and State Rep. John Legg, both Republicans from New Port Richey, want to broaden the law by letting law enforcement officers decide whether an act is offensive.

I believe the police in Saudi Arabia and Yemen already have this power. Maybe these "Republicans" are trying to bring back the best attribrutes of the Taliban by giving men with guns the power to enforce morality as they see it.

[Wolfie]

Naked people were having sex, but it was consensual and no money was exchanged.

The Horror!

Because it was in a private home, prosecutors could not argue that the rights of the public were being violated.

Dang, what a shame.

[Rebelbase]

"Oh, the humanity! Imagine a world where the police can stop two people from screwing on a public beach!"

It was a bad example for the writer to use as there are already laws on the books that prohibit that. In the case cited in the article no none complained. If there is not a complaint how can the police respond in the first place?

[beeler]

Police respond and act on issues where no complaint is lodged all the time. If you get pulled over for speeding do you think it's because someone complained? I don't see what you're trying to say.

[steve-b]

Sounds like a perfect setup for police to openly (rather than subtly as is now the case) extort contributions for their "charitable" outfits.

[Rebelbase]

How can the police charge you with public sex acts if they didn't see you and no one complained?

[balch3]

A much needed small step in the right direction toward decency.

[He Rides A White Horse]

....at risk of being called a 'statist' by our freedom defending friends, I'll take a raincheck on coming upon such a scene while trying to have a nice day at the beach..........

.....I dunno, maybe I should just change the channel.