As the poll Howlin posted earlier points out, most of us believe, right or wrong, that we need guest labor. We definitely want a solution to the problem - but what problem? Closed hospitals? Criminal gangs? A dearth of jobs for our teens and college students? Cheap lettuce? What is the problem?
In the meantime, this country needs to gain control of it's borders. I don't mean we need to close them, we certainly should keep all of the Ports of Entry open. But we must stop the flood of illegals crossing in between the POEs. They are right now uninvited and unwanted guests in this country. Many are violent felons and we have no idea who many of them are or where they've settled.
Think of the analogy of the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike. You absolutely cannot drain the flooded hinterlands before first sealing off the dike.
The rational FReepers on my list are not, as you suggest, solely concerned about open/closed borders. But I hope you can see the wisdom of the argument that you cannot have a solution to illegal immigration that either ignores the border problem, or subjugates it to a feel-good jobs program.
I don't believe all Freepers are irrational with regard to the border issue
I believe many have had good discussions and possible solutions to the border and illegal problem our country faces
But you have to admit there are a number that are not rational in their posts
Dragging mexicans out of their homes and putting them in camps is irrational
Putting land mines on the border is irrational
Shooting any mexicans coming across the border is irrational
And twisting the facts is irrational
And who has said it should?