HUTCHISON Amendment (#218) would fund 2,000 border agents.

Thomas ^ | 3-17-05 | Senator HUTCHISON

[DoughtyOne]

Seal and militarize the borders	45.9%		1,779
Beef up and enforce existing law	37.9%		1,469
Some form of guest worker program	10.7%		414
Other	3.4%		130
Undecided/Pass	2.2%		87
	100.1%		3,879
Non-Member Opinion
Seal and militarize the borders	56.4%		1,053
Beef up and enforce existing law	30.5%		569
Some form of guest worker program	9.8%		183
Other	2.1%		39
Undecided/Pass	1.2%		23
	100.0%		1,867

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So much for the outlandish claim that 70% of forum participants think some form of guest worker program is the best way to fix illegal immigration.

For the record, a little over 10% think that and don't have the aptitude to comprehend the truth.

[DoughtyOne]

BTW: The question was: Which of the following is the best way to solve the illegal immigration problem? Pretty confusing hugh. Can you believe how obtuse some people are?

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=79

[Happy2BMe]

#101

Thanks for posting that. For some unknown reason when I post a bonifide poll off of this very same forum it mysteriously becomes my poll.

(I had captured that one also, and was wondering if someone else might offer it up for digestion.)

These numbers are very reflective of the national consensus as well. There does seem to be a fair amount of disclaiming occurring on the part of those who want to open the border for the 'guest workers'.

Fierce advocates of constructing a protection scheme for the millions of 'guest workers' are highly motivated as they have the most to lose from immigration laws being enforced - especially enforcement against employers who are propagating the flood of illegal migrants through their continued breaking of the law by continuing to hire them.

It is a vicious cycle that seemingly is fast coming to a head and will most assuredly lay the foundation for the 2006 and 2008 political landscape in this country.

Thanks again.

[DoughtyOne]

I just get damned tired of people lying their a--es off. Disruption is disruption is disrption, whether it's DU or FR. This place deserves better than that.

[Happy2BMe]

Hang in there - the waves haven't hit the boat yet.

Dubya is looking out of the wagon and the indians are beginning to circle - REPUBLICAN INDIANS.

[DoughtyOne]

I saw some of the comments on this thread from work. I couldn't wait to get home to post that poll.

You take care.

[Marine Inspector]

Yes, the BP is in Iraq and not because of Reserve duty. They are there as BP Agents sent by DHS.

[FBD]

bump^

[Fatalis]

Almost SEVENTY PERCENT of the MEMBERS of this forum approve of SOME KIND of worker's program.

Which kind did you vote for?

[Happy2BMe]

I won't discuss that here - period.

[Dane]

I won't discuss that here - period

Just for full disclosure it was FBD who brought up the issue.

[PRND21]

Dubya is looking out of the wagon and the indians are beginning to circle - REPUBLICAN INDIANS

More BP agents gets this gem out of you? Sheeesh. You're a low buck todd.

[JustAnAmerican]

How convenient of you to forget the poll that came after that one, you know, the one that Jim posted to narrow it down.

Free Republic Opinion Poll: Which of the following is the best way to solve the illegal immigration problem?

Composite Opinion
Seal and militarize the borders	49.3%		2,834
Beef up and enforce existing law	35.5%		2,039
Some form of guest worker program	10.4%		598
Other	2.9%		169
Undecided/Pass	1.9%		110
	100.0%		5,750
Member Opinion
Seal and militarize the borders	45.9%		1,781
Beef up and enforce existing law	37.9%		1,470
Some form of guest worker program	10.7%		414
Other	3.3%		130
Undecided/Pass	2.2%		87
	100.0%		3,882
Non-Member Opinion
Seal and militarize the borders	56.4%		1,053
Beef up and enforce existing law	30.5%		569
Some form of guest worker program	9.9%		184
Other	2.1%		39
Undecided/Pass	1.2%		23
	100.1%		1,868

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Talk about not being honest with polls. You might want to try following your own advice.

[Howlin]

Which kind did you vote for?

I voted in the first poll, with the other 70 percent.

In the second poll, I voted for beefing up existing laws because I'm against sealing the borders; apparently so are over 50 percent of the people on this forum.

If it's any of your business.

[Fatalis]

I also voted to beef up existing law in that poll. I can't find the poll you're referencing that says that 70% support some kind of guest worker program.

[Fatalis]

Hmmm ... did they go because they are in the reserves/military or because they are a border agent??

I'm guessing it was the reserves/military

Not according to this CBP press release:

Washington, D.C. – This week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) deployed another team of CBP officers and Border Patrol agents to Iraq and the surrounding region in an effort to help secure Iraq’s borders. The CBP team, deployed prior to the Iraqi national elections, will support current border security efforts. The support and additional training of Iraqi border police will continue beyond the elections. The focus is to keep saboteurs, terrorists and armaments from crossing into or out of Iraq.

“U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers and Border Patrol agents are fighting the war on terror, and we’ve taken it to the borders of Iraq. Our people are on a vital mission to train Iraqis to protect their own borders and build Iraqi institutions that will safeguard the new freedoms and democratic principles being established there. There is no more important mission,” said Commissioner Bonner.

This latest effort by CBP is an enhancement to the already ongoing commitment to develop and help institutionalize Iraq’s border security strategy. The CBP team began training Iraqis at the Jordanian International Police Training Center (JIPTC) in Amman, Jordan in August 2004. Since that time, over 2100 Iraqi border control officers have been trained. The training began with basic classroom instruction and progressed to field exercises. The courses taught include border security tactics, human rights, defensive tactics training, weapons training, vehicle searches, as well as basic customs and immigration activities. The Iraqi officials CBP trained are now putting these skills to use at their country’s ports of entry.

[Fatalis]

I have yet to see anyone here support "open borders" or allowing illegals to come into the U.S. but it doesn't stop some from accusing others of just that because they oppose violent solutions.

I think the "open borders" business is overdone, but I think you've also mischaracterized things here to imply that those who use the phrase support violent solutions. In my observation the phrase is most often applied to those who support some sort of legalization of illegal aliens, by those who oppose legalization.