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GM slashes earnings forecast (forsees $828 million 1st Qtr loss)
Automotive News ^ | 3/16/05 | Dale Jewett and Jason Stein

Posted on 03/16/2005 10:25:18 AM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Boy, am I wrong here. Jacques Nasser was CEO with Ford, not GM.


21 posted on 03/16/2005 10:51:22 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; CSM

It might have had a "retro" niche, but the quality control on the car was awful....absolutely hideous..


22 posted on 03/16/2005 10:51:53 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: donozark
Replaced it with the Colorado-a five cylinder. Many balk at this "new" concept. Bubba just ain't sure about a 5 cylinder...

Maybe because it reminds Bubba of a dawg with three legs.

23 posted on 03/16/2005 10:54:14 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn
"That is what happened in the late twenties, and it is happening again."

Don't quit your day job.

Ha!

24 posted on 03/16/2005 10:56:34 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: meadsjn
Ya. But even three-legged-dogs will hunt. Sometimes...

Just think the whole concept of five cylinder was a bit much for Bubba to absorb so quickly.

25 posted on 03/16/2005 10:57:53 AM PST by donozark (OLD ARAB SAYING: The dog barks but the caravan moves on.)
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To: ken5050

I didn't think it came close to the good looks of the 55-57s, which is what they were trying for.


26 posted on 03/16/2005 10:58:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: meadsjn
"...those consumers are losing jobs to outsourcing and immigration, and the lucky consumers who still have jobs are suffering pay cuts combined with tax increases..."

Unemployment is low. Taxes are down, not up. Inflation is low. Overall employment is at record levels. Payrolls, salaries, and wages are all up, too.

In contrast, you got *all* of the above wrong. You just batted zero.

27 posted on 03/16/2005 10:59:41 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: BurbankKarl

The auto industry is a major leader of the national economy. When autos sag, the economy slows. Which one is the cause and which the effect is not clear, it is somewhat symbiotic. Autos weaken, economy slows, other sectors, including housing follow. The question is how long and how deep the effects.


28 posted on 03/16/2005 11:00:41 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: wideawake; CSM
Column: Current woes at GM and Ford can be traced to Roger Smith

http://www.mlive.com/business/statewide/rick_haglund/index.ssf?/base/business-0/1110319801129060.xml

Wednesday, March 09, 2005
By Rick Haglund
Considered a visionary leader, retired General Motors Corp. Chairman Roger Smith also was tagged with a truckload of costly corporate sins in what some called his decade-long "reign of error" in the 1980s.

Smith took heat for crippling the economy of Flint by drastically shrinking GM's footprint in its home city. And he spent billions in a futile attempt to diversify the automaker by purchasing Electronic Data Systems Corp. and Hughes Aircraft Co.

GM later sold off EDS and Hughes. But the automaker is still suffering from Smith's failed fantasy of replacing much of its hourly work force with robots and computer-controlled machinery that would churn out cars and trucks without so much as a bathroom break.

The unsurprising result of Smith's plans for fully automated "lights-out" factories: GM faced an enraged work force as the automaker entered negotiations with the United Auto Workers union in 1990.

Robert Stempel, who succeeded Smith as GM chairman that year, decided the only way he could keep labor peace was to sign a historic pact that required GM to pay workers whether or not their plants were operating.

Ford and the former Chrysler Corp. also were forced to sign similar contracts, shifting labor from a variable cost to a fixed cost.

Those fixed labor costs are now making it extremely difficult for GM and Ford to cope with slumping sales.

Earlier this month, GM and Ford announced production cuts in an effort to clear out bloated inventories of unsold cars and trucks.

GM also decided to shut down its Lansing Car Assembly operation months earlier than expected, putting 3,000 workers on temporary layoff.

Analysts would like to see even more plant shutdowns as Ford and GM bleed market share. But the two automakers have been reluctant to do so because they must pay hourly workers whether or not the plants are running.

Here's how the deal works:

Laid-off workers are placed in a "jobs banks" for up to 48 weeks. Drawing unemployment benefits from the government and supplemental unemployment benefits (known as SUB pay) from the automakers, they earn about 95 percent of normal take-home pay, or 70 percent of gross pay.

Ford had 1,092 workers in its jobs bank as of Feb. 27. GM won't release its number.

After 48 weeks, laid-off hourly workers go back on the payroll at full regular pay, regardless of whether there are jobs for them.

GM and Ford have been trying to avoid these costly layoffs by goosing sales with incentives such as zero-percent financing and hefty cash discounts.

But those incentives have been losing steam in recent months, forcing GM and Ford to reluctantly cut production.

Top executives at those automakers no doubt wish that Roger Smith had forged a more cooperative relationship with the UAW.

Contact Rick Haglund at (248) 540-7311 or e-mail him at rhaglund@boothnewspapers.com
29 posted on 03/16/2005 11:01:39 AM PST by wmichgrad ("The only difference between what Senator Kennedy said & a bag of excrement is the bag" Rush 3/2/05)
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To: donozark
"Just think the whole concept of five cylinder was a bit much for Bubba to absorb so quickly."

Introduce the 5 cylinder as an option in the S-10 and it would have done fine. But put it in the new "Colorado" first?! No way.

30 posted on 03/16/2005 11:01:48 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You're correct..part of the problem was that new model had to be higher, and boxier, to meet the crash impact requirements.


31 posted on 03/16/2005 11:02:22 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: truth_seeker

You don't think it will set the world on fire? Does it get 12 mpg like every other truck in the GM fleet?

32 posted on 03/16/2005 11:06:41 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: ken5050

If I were a GM stockholder, I'd wring the neck of the guy who did the Fiat deal. Fiats are junk, always have been junk and always will be.


33 posted on 03/16/2005 11:07:46 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: RightWhale

I think we are seeing the beginning of the end....

The end of what, I don't know....


34 posted on 03/16/2005 11:07:51 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I am making up my sandwich board. The end is near! Sometimes it is even nearer.


35 posted on 03/16/2005 11:09:38 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: ken5050
My dear husband took me to the dealership to test drive the T-Bird because he was tired of me saying that was the ONLY car I wanted. "Get it", he said.

Ha! I am petite, and still felt like I was sitting in a sardine can. The interior was cheaply constructed and I was very disappointed. So, no T-Bird for me :~)

sw

36 posted on 03/16/2005 11:11:15 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (Hang up and drive))
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To: BurbankKarl

My GMC Sierra gets 17.


37 posted on 03/16/2005 11:11:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You must not have California oxygentated gas in your truck.

V6?


38 posted on 03/16/2005 11:14:57 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Ugly!!


39 posted on 03/16/2005 11:15:29 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: spectre

Get a Chrysler 300....


40 posted on 03/16/2005 11:17:07 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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