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Going Nuclear
The American Spectator ^ | March 16, 2005 | The Prowler

Posted on 03/16/2005 3:43:55 AM PST by Cincinatus

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To: Jim Noble

"...This issue has been debated since the beginning of the Republic and has never been resolved. There is a great review of this subject HERE, scroll down to the article by Gold and Gupta. It's a great, though dense, read..."

Thank you for the clarification, very informative.


41 posted on 03/16/2005 6:20:20 AM PST by pizzalady (Truth triumphs!)
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To: michigander

Actually it would be quite interesting if Reid attempted to corral his 45 Dems into shutting down the Senate. A number of those Senators are in somewhat precarious positions for re-election in 2006 (Bill Nelson, Ben Nelson, Maria Cantwell, Kent Conrad, not to mention the open seats in NJ, MN and MD).

Further, there are others up in 2008 who would not want this on their resume (Mark Pryor, Mary Landrieu, Max Baucus, and Tim Johnson). If Frist plays this right and gets the blame properly assigned, Reid could be relegated to further obscurity in the future. Of course, this assumes Frist can keep his own troops in line.


42 posted on 03/16/2005 6:20:27 AM PST by pkajj
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To: Cincinatus
I especially remember Clinton, aided by a nearly monolithic maintream media, pummeling the GOP as heartless creeps, while he quivered his lip.

I also remember that a good portion of the White House staff, including people tasked specifically to the job of keeping Big Bill's pants zipped up, were sent home as well. One of the staffers left on the job was a certain young intern named Monica Lewinsky...

43 posted on 03/16/2005 6:21:35 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Cincinatus
Reid pleaded with Republicans to come back to the negotiating table

Let me 'splain it to you, Harry. When you have the votes, you don't negotiate.

You're welcome.

44 posted on 03/16/2005 6:23:50 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Look it up!)
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To: Cincinatus

If the Dems insist on shutting everything down, we should form a coalition, travel to DC, and install ourselves in their offices to keep things going until they get their thumbs out of their ***. We'll just go ahead and vote on stuff, too, and tell all their supporting lefties who call or email in their support to take a hike.

While we're at it, let's kick the Republicans out, too, and take over the whole dang place. Both sides are worthless.


45 posted on 03/16/2005 6:28:17 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Cincinatus

From what I've read, Senator Byrd's comments about Republican's being Nazi's REALLY torqued off even moderate (read RINO) GOP Senators, and the votes are now there.


46 posted on 03/16/2005 6:34:32 AM PST by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: gridlock
>> Well, the Nike Missile was a nuclear weapons platform...<<

YESSSSS!

I like it better n better :)

47 posted on 03/16/2005 6:35:33 AM PST by evad
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Let me 'splain it to you, Harry. When you have the votes, you don't negotiate.

Frist does not have the votes.

In 1967, Vice-President Humphrey ruled from the chair that 51 votes could change the rules, and that any Senate rule to the contrary was unconstitutional.

VP Humphrey had 68 Democrats, and 20 more RINOs, in his Senate. That was the most radical, change-oriented Senate in the history of the Republic.

VP Humphrey's ruling was not upheld by the Senate.

Why do you think that VP Cheney, with 55 Senators in the majority and NONE from the minority, will be able to pull this off?

You are asking individual Senators to surrender power. They have never done so in the past, and they aren't going to do so now.

48 posted on 03/16/2005 6:52:57 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Cincinatus

> Make no mistake -- if there's a Senate "shutdown", the Democrats will be the very last people in the world that the media will blame.

True. And yet...when tired, unwatched Old Media comes to the rescue, I wonder if it will be their last hurrah?


49 posted on 03/16/2005 7:34:33 AM PST by cloud8
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