Just for the record, in the several years I've been following this debate on FR, I have yet to see an IDer who could give a coherent description of variation and natural selection.
I haven't followed the debate on FR, but I've never seen such an IDer anywhere else either.
Been to ARN.Org much? Where there are Pro ID *scientists* who regularly take part in the discussions? Have you heard of Mike Gene or Bill Dembski?