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Democrats Threaten to Stop Senate Business if GOP Changes Rules on Judge Confirmations
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Posted on 03/15/2005 12:22:27 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Democrats Threaten to Stop Senate Business if GOP Changes Rules on Judge Confirmations By David Espo The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats served notice Tuesday that they will slow or stop most Senate business if Republicans unilaterally change the rules to assure confirmation of President Bush's controversial court appointments.

Any such change would mark "an unprecedented abuse of power," Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., wrote Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.

Reid, the Democratic leader, exempted military and national security legislation from the threat, and said Democrats would not block passage of measures needed to assure continuation of critical government services.

"To shut down the Senate would be irresponsible and partisan," Frist said in swift rebuttal. "The solution is simple: return to 200 years of tradition and allow up or down votes on judges."

The exchange marked the latest development in a long-simmering struggle over Bush's court appointments. Democrats blocked votes on 10 nominees during the last Congress, attacking them as too conservative to warrant lifetime appointments.

Accusing Democrats of obstruction, Republicans sought to make an issue of it in the elections last fall, in which they gained four seats.

Bush has already renominated some of the judges, and Reid has said previously the Democrats' position has not changed.

(Excerpt) Read more at ap.tbo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; dirtyrats; doit; doomsdayoption; govwatch; obstructionistdems; rats; sorelosers; ussenate; winwin
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh poor baby.


61 posted on 03/15/2005 12:38:49 PM PST by Danae (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It is a PR bluff. Not much chance of stopping the Senate if the changes the cloture rules to a simple majority.


62 posted on 03/15/2005 12:39:08 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: nyg4168

Yeah...

That is the other problem. Judges are but one issue.

Timing must be precise. We need to get a couple of things through before we use the nuke.


63 posted on 03/15/2005 12:39:08 PM PST by hchutch (The problem isn't too much corporate power in politics; the problem is NOT ENOUGH corporate power.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not "unprecedented."

You only have to look at Robert Byrd's reign of terror in the Senate for several examples.


64 posted on 03/15/2005 12:39:28 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Mad Mammoth

"Have the Sergeant at Arms remove them from the Senate chamber, Vice President Cheney (as President of the Senate) rules on a motion to censure the 'Rats, they are effectively expelled from the Senate, and viola:

No more obstructionism."

All you have to do is expell 9 democRATS and the R's can say that nominees where approved with 60/40.


65 posted on 03/15/2005 12:39:53 PM PST by embedded_rebel
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To: Sub-Driver

Ten bucks says when all this goes down the general public won't even care.


66 posted on 03/15/2005 12:39:54 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: All

I say we all contact our Senators asap and tell them (the Republicans) to call Reid's bluff---

Tell them to tell Reid that since the Reps are the majority, THEY will continue to do their jobs and vote on bills and nominees---


67 posted on 03/15/2005 12:40:44 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Excellent! Thank you. (Gearing up for salvo against my lib cousin. Hehehehehehehehehehehe . . .


68 posted on 03/15/2005 12:41:09 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Drango
When the house did this under Gingrich, the Republicans lost the battle in the press and in the court of public opinion.

I'd dearly love to see the Dems try. They're the minority, and they're stomping around threatening holding their breath 'til they turn blue. Good grief.

69 posted on 03/15/2005 12:41:32 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Sub-Driver

"of President Bush's controversial court appointments"

I love how just the fact of being considered conservative makes one controversial.

Lefty = Idealogical; Principled

Righty = Controversial ; Agenda Driven

Please let me offa this ride.


70 posted on 03/15/2005 12:41:39 PM PST by SignersSon
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To: Sub-Driver

There's no way Republicans lose here. The public is not going to be happy if Democrats shut down the Senate over what's seen as a minor procedural issue. Let them cut their own throats.


71 posted on 03/15/2005 12:42:08 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: SandyInSeattle

"and they're stomping around threatening holding their breath 'til they turn BLUE."

So THAT explains why their states are 'blue'.


LOL!


72 posted on 03/15/2005 12:42:28 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Sub-Driver
"To shut down the Senate would be irresponsible and partisan," Frist said in swift rebuttal. "The solution is simple: return to 200 years of tradition and allow up or down votes on judges."

Exactly! The RATS are obstructionists and they are going to lose more in 2006 if they continue their stalling practices.

73 posted on 03/15/2005 12:42:40 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: SandyInSeattle

grow some balls frist, you trent lott wannabe!


74 posted on 03/15/2005 12:42:57 PM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Sub-Driver

What a bunch of hipocrits. No religion in Government, until of course it serves the purposes of SATAN. Losers, do they really think we are dumb enough NOT to notice that???


75 posted on 03/15/2005 12:43:20 PM PST by Danae (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: Txsleuth

Both my senators are Commurats :(


76 posted on 03/15/2005 12:43:30 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Sub-Driver
Reid, the Democratic leader, exempted military and national security legislation from the threat, and said Democrats would not block passage of measures needed to assure continuation of critical government services.

Hmmmm. SO, if the 'pubs change the rules, the dims will limit the Senate to only the buisness the Constitution envisioned?

Well, in the words of Val Kilmer, Let's do it, lunger.

77 posted on 03/15/2005 12:43:59 PM PST by MileHi
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To: Sub-Driver

Just do it.


78 posted on 03/15/2005 12:44:58 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: NRA1995
Democrats Threaten to Stop Senate Business if GOP Changes Rules on Judge Confirmations And the down side is??
79 posted on 03/15/2005 12:45:25 PM PST by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: NRA1995
Democrats Threaten to Stop Senate Business if GOP Changes Rules on Judge Confirmations And the down side is??
80 posted on 03/15/2005 12:45:28 PM PST by JRjr (hMMM?)
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