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To: MadIvan

If we still have troops in Kosovo, we should pullout. Let the EU-ro-peons deal with it.

I'm fed up with these wussies dumping everything in our lap.


10 posted on 03/15/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Open borders=National suicide)
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To: Finalapproach29er
I'm fed up with these wussies dumping everything in our lap.

As anyone who has read my posts knows, I am no Europhile by any stretch of the imagination. But in this case I am willing to cut Berlusconi some slack. Italy is not an easy nation to govern, the communists still have considerable influence, and since WWII Italy has changed governments more often than my grand-dad changed his socks. Polls have shown that 70% of Italians favor pulling out of Iraq, and by not giving in to that 70% of his people Berlusconi has shown that he, along with Blair, are the only true friends we have in any of the EU governments.

In any case, we have announced that we also intend to incrementally reduce our forces in Iraq as time goes on. I don't see the Italian staged withdrawal as being all that much different from our own long range plans.

What does bother me though is the impression this will give to Iraqi terrorists in the immediate aftermath of the faked "kidnapping" and subsequent ransoming of that Italian communist wench. I'm afraid that the announced withdrawal will be seen as the result of that incident, and will almost certainly lead to more such staged (IMO) "kidnappings" of terrorist sympathizers from nations which have troops serving in Iraq. But I still don't condemn Berlusconi for this latest announcement. If his government falls because of a totally inflexible policy on troop withdrawals, the result will be an immediate Italian replay of the Spanish withdrawal following the Madrid train bombing.

28 posted on 03/15/2005 11:37:01 AM PST by epow (Bibles that are falling apart usually belong to people who aren't.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
I'm fed up with these wussies dumping everything in our lap. The Italian people (every single poll demonstrates unequivocally) never wanted us to attack, nor did they want their military involved in this war. So how is this "dumping everything in our lap"? They didn't force Bush to attack Iraq. On top of everything else: is this how we treat our allies now? Berlusconi gambles a good deal of his political capital and his countries prestige (to say nothing of Italian blood and money) for 2.5 YEARS, and you call him/his country "wussies"? No wonder the US have so few allies left. It's called diplomacy. Check into it sometime.
85 posted on 03/15/2005 4:16:11 PM PST by Double_Plus_Good
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To: Finalapproach29er

Well said. WTF were we doing there again? No Kosovar WMDs or any reason to be there at all.


90 posted on 03/15/2005 9:49:49 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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