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All you have to do is listen to her. She sees it from his point of view. He has two sides to him. Yeah, and so did Dalmer.

I listen to her last night on Jaraldo. I expected her to ask viewers to start a fan club for him.

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All you have to do is listen to her. She sees it from his point of view.

I haven't seen her interviewed, but I read a transcript where she sounded rational to me. And part of what she discussed with the guy was how he'd devastated the families of the people he'd killed.