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Qaeda Ally May Target U.S. Theaters, Schools -Report
Reuters via Netscape.com ^ | 03/14/2005 | Reuters

Posted on 03/14/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by RockinRight

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To: RockinRight
"...circulated among U.S. security agencies last week in a restricted bulletin."

Must have been restricted to media circulaiton. Perhaps it was to encourage and push for an attack by particular means. Nothing like a media campaign to get things going.

61 posted on 03/14/2005 1:20:21 PM PST by spunkets
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To: eastforker

To transport a handgun in the passenger compartment legaly it must either be in a locked tranport box or be broken down. Or possess a ccw.


Makes sense. Not constitutional sense. But I believe I will find you are right after speaking with an officer friend of mine.


62 posted on 03/14/2005 1:20:45 PM PST by hushpad (There is no more Slippery Slope. The Judiciary already passed it a few miles back.)
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To: null and void
It's kind of unclear if you go to Title 32, Chapter 3, Section 313. It refers to the organized militia (National Guard) and an upper age of 63 with prior regular armed forces service.

The entire code needs to be re-visted. Then you also have state guards/militias in some states...State Guard Association of the United States

63 posted on 03/14/2005 1:21:10 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: hushpad

The laws concerning "Open carry" in TX are muddy at best and not something you want to be a test case for.

The "law" that allows you to carry exposed in your vehicle is not a law-it is a defense to prosecution. you can still be arrested and you must prove in trial that you were carrying in accordance with the exception.

I advise you to seek other counsel than "The good ole boys" and get the CHL to eliminate any doubt. "As far as you knew" is not an affirmative defense in court. That is specifically addressed as ignorance of the law is not a defense in the Penal Code

I am a police officer and an advocate of citizen carry. I am also a former CHL holder. I've done some study on this and cannot emphasize enough that you should get good advise. I would be happy to answer specific questions, but this is not the forum to take you through all the ins and outs. You need to get the real scoop in a class

Good Luck


64 posted on 03/14/2005 1:23:06 PM PST by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: 5Madman2

Yes, one to defense of prosecution is if you regularly carry large sums of money . Another is travel through more than three counties I believe.


65 posted on 03/14/2005 1:29:36 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: JTHomes
We have to be prepared to use any means necessary to defend against that. And part of that defense is a good offense and a good deterrent. I don't think anything is off the table. And they need to understand that.

In case you missed his post (#38) "they" includes "you, your families, and many many many of your fellows."

Is wholesale slaughter -- including, apparently, summary execution because one happens to be Muslim -- among the means you're willing to accept?

Now, maybe I'm just sensitive, but when I see stupid, asinine comments like that, the first thought that comes into my head is "Gee, that's exactly how a fascist would respond."

There's no place for that kind of crap in a civilized country.

66 posted on 03/14/2005 1:34:19 PM PST by r9etb
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To: eastforker

The three counties is an arbitrary number placed on "travel" by some authorities.

The history that I learned on it is that if you're traveling, any place you stay is considered your domicile and you are allowed to carry protection. Under that interpretation, some localities would frown on a loaded weapon in a vehicle while traveling, because you have not reached the domicile yet.

The other is how to define large sums of Money. I can go to locations in any county where they will kill for 5.00

That is why I say the laws and exceptions are muddy waters, and it is better to get the permit. The class itself clears up so many questions


67 posted on 03/14/2005 1:36:02 PM PST by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: 5Madman2

I agree, very muddy waters.


68 posted on 03/14/2005 1:40:42 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: A Navy Vet
We all best pray this never happens.

And nothing will happen if it does. The Dems will carry on about how we must understand the rage against oppression in the Third World and why American tyranny is really its root cause.

George W. Bush will go on television and implore us to be tolerant and compassionate to the oppressed peoples of Islam and understand that our strength lies in diversity.

The border will remain open so the tidal wave of cheap labor will continue unabated to do the jobs that lazy, illiterate Americans don't want to do.

China will continue to provide us with cheap trinkets to keep us amused, while India will do the heavy lifting to support our infrastructure.

And the price of being a vassal state to foerign interests will be an occasional blown up theater, shopping mall, or church. Consider it just the cost of doing business.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

69 posted on 03/14/2005 1:44:52 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Euro-American Scum
You make some good points, but consider this:

There are 25 State Defense Forces (official militias) who are not restricted by posse comitatus act; over dozens and dozens of self-proclaimed militias (many neo-Nazi types); thousands of veterans in their twilight years; hundreds of sanctioned neighborhood watches; 10's of millions of gun-owners; not to mention the spontaneous clandestine groups that would spring up overnight.

No, I don't see the good people of America sitting by quietly to enjoy the Israeli experience. And don't forget our "cowboy" attitude. It would get messy. It may take more than once, but after that, all bets are off.

70 posted on 03/14/2005 1:59:41 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: 5Madman2

You need to get the real scoop in a class <<<


Absolutely! When it comes to the law, acting on what you "think", not what you know, can cause a bunch of problems. What I think about open or conceal carry does not reflect what I do, at least in this case.

During an all out war..this might be different.

I think my original point is, buy the gun before they are taken away, then get the permit.

Thanks for helping out on this one!


71 posted on 03/14/2005 2:01:52 PM PST by hushpad (There is no more Slippery Slope. The Judiciary already passed it a few miles back.)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

72 posted on 03/14/2005 2:02:57 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: hushpad

No problem-happy to help people stay out of unecessary trouble.

Freepmail me if you have specific questions. I am by no means "the final" authority on this issue, but I am happy to get pointed in the right direction


73 posted on 03/14/2005 2:04:04 PM PST by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: hushpad
To offense taken. There are an abundance of left-wing pansies up here, what can I say. Fortunately my town is an oasis from them for the most part!

Of course we have our share of country club pubbies at that's almost as bad.

74 posted on 03/14/2005 2:12:15 PM PST by marlon
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

75 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:14 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

76 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:15 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

77 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:21 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

78 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:21 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

79 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:24 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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To: Peach
Didn't the FBI just tell us last week there were no sleeper cells in the US?

No, they told us they couldn't identify any. That doesn't mean that there aren't any, just that they are very hard to find. It doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be harder to find than a French resistance cell. I suppose you could get mad at the FBI for being incompetent, but not for lying.

80 posted on 03/14/2005 2:14:25 PM PST by webheart (Pajamarazzi Rules!)
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