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I'm going to live forever
The Times (UK) ^ | 3/14/05 | Bryan Appleyard

Posted on 03/13/2005 4:25:11 PM PST by saquin

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To: saquin

I seem to recall a 60s tv show called "The Immortal" where the lead character couldn't die and he was constantly running away from the bad guys who wanted to experiment on him and learn his secret for immortality. It was sort of the flip side to "Run for Your Life" where the character had only months to live and tried to cram as much life in without getting involved in relationships.


21 posted on 03/13/2005 4:43:49 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Grut
So if medicine is doing us so much good, howcome people aren't living any longer (or at least, dying of old age later) than they did in biblical times?

Ummm, actually they are. For starters, the current ~80 years is an average, whereas in Biblical times that was closer to the maximum, with the average being more on the order of 40 if one was lucky.

Second, improving medical technology is currently increasingly average lifespan by about 0.4 years every year i.e. for every year you live, your average lifespan just increased by almost half a year. People who are already old won't notice this much, but people who are young will live far beyond the current average lifespan based on that fact alone. And that rate is accelerating at its fastest pace in history. Every year that number creeps higher; in a dozen years or so, you'll gain one year in lifespan for every year you live on average, though again it will show up more in the younger generations. It is worth noting that for most of human history, the average lifespan extension rate was approximately zero.

22 posted on 03/13/2005 4:44:26 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: saquin

This story does a terrific job of summing up the speculation about the technology and the notion of the "escape velocity" -- i.e., that any set of technology which enables people to live to 130 will probably enable them to live indefinitely.

I've got no idea how probable any of this is, but it's just one of the (many) things which current economic and political theory has no imagination and no planning for.

Of course, one of the nifty things about the future is how what happens is always essentially unpredictable and completely radical from the standpoint of prior expectations.


23 posted on 03/13/2005 4:44:35 PM PST by only1percent
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To: saquin

This would never happen even if they could, because eventually you would have to ban sex and people would be knocking themselves off left and right than go centuries without getting laid. But on the other hand, into your second century everyone would start looking like Helen Thomas or Ted Kennedy, and I think sex would be the last thing on your mind by then. They wouldn`t be able to from the gagging. It would be a stunt on Fear factor or something.


24 posted on 03/13/2005 4:44:40 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: TitansAFC

"I'd love to spend some time with my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great gandchildren. All 600 of them."

But will they want to spend time with you! ;^)


25 posted on 03/13/2005 4:46:07 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: spinestein

Especially when after 40 "gravity" strikes the body! What would it be like at 1000??? Yuck! ;-)


26 posted on 03/13/2005 4:49:04 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: saquin
I only have two words to say:


27 posted on 03/13/2005 4:49:36 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: saquin

Great. Living forever will be like watching "Fame" for the rest of eternity, LOL!

"I'm gonna live forever
I'm gonna learn how to fly
High

I feel it coming together
People will see me and cry
Fame

I'm gonna make it to heaven
Light up the sky like a flame
Fame

I'm gonna live forever
Baby remember my name

Remember
Remember
Remember
Remember
Remember
Remember
Remember
Remember..."


28 posted on 03/13/2005 4:53:40 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: andysandmikesmom

Your husband is quite right IMHO. I've always said the generation is coming that will live forever, or certainly for several hundred years. I also always say we (my contemporaries) will miss the boat. Also, unlike the folks who say they would be bored, etc, I would have no problem being "bored" for 500 or 500,000 years given the opportunity.


29 posted on 03/13/2005 4:54:04 PM PST by Williams
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To: saquin

After she divorces Bill, I'm going to marry Hillary. I won't live forever, but it will seem like forever.


30 posted on 03/13/2005 4:54:57 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: saquin

There Can Be Only One.


32 posted on 03/13/2005 4:57:49 PM PST by workerbee
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To: Williams

[I would have no problem being "bored" for 500 or 500,000 years given the opportunity.]

How do you know?


33 posted on 03/13/2005 4:58:40 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Williams

Well, I guess he is not the only one who thinks like this...I used to think he was a bit nutty for thinking like that, but then, ,who am I to judge....

As for living a much longer time, we would never be bored here at our house...hubby will be 62 in a few weeks, and will be retiring....we dont have to worry about the children any more, everything we have is paid for, work is over and done with....we plan to jump into the RV, and drive till we drop dead...

Going where we want, when we want, doing what we want, whenever we want...we feel like we are just getting started, and already we are considered 'seniors'....being bored is the last thing on our minds...we would both gladly welcome having 100yrs of life left...


34 posted on 03/13/2005 5:01:50 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: only1percent
The nonsense about living to 130 being an escape velocity depends on technology coming along that can reverse aging. First, living to 130 is not easy. Second, the technology has to be able to reverse all the effects of aging to 130. Third, if you make it to 130 and you are sitting there drooling waiting to die and the technology isn't coming along for another 100 years, well you are screwed.

I "agree" in principle with many of the things in the article, and yet I think the guy who wants to live long enough to live forever is also self obsessed and living on wishful thinking.

His views of how society will be turned upside down are childishly naive. This development would be treated just like everything else, including a visit by aliens. It will spawn some new fashions, people will still drink coffee in the morning, and it will be more of the same old same old. Literally.

Just imagine that a**hole neighbor of yours may be living there 1,000 years.

35 posted on 03/13/2005 5:02:45 PM PST by Williams
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To: saquin

Necessary for interstellar travel.


36 posted on 03/13/2005 5:03:41 PM PST by dr huer
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To: Tax-chick
"Blech. This life going on forever would be hideous ... and I have a comfortable and happy life"

I used to feel the same way but now I want to stick around and see how everything turns out. There are always new chapters starting nowadays, complicating the world plot. Hopefully I'll live long enough for the time machine so if I get nostalgic I can come back to 2005.

37 posted on 03/13/2005 5:03:49 PM PST by withteeth
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To: saquin

Maybe I could afford the payments on a Porsche Carrera GT.


38 posted on 03/13/2005 5:04:38 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: saquin
In other words, de Grey thinks most of the social problems will be solved by the time the technology arrives. He also thinks that at that point people will have to choose between living for ever and having children. Clearly they can’t do both as the population explosion would be huge.

Or it could give us the incentive needed to get off this mudball for good, and not leave humanity's eggs all in one basket.

39 posted on 03/13/2005 5:04:42 PM PST by adx (Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
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To: Kirkwood
I would be bored silly after the first couple hundred years.

Yeah, what to do after finally reading all those philosophy class assignments?

40 posted on 03/13/2005 5:04:58 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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