" Dirty rotten commies!"
Posted on 03/13/2005 4:40:24 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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If diplomatic efforts fail, in the worst case, it may be imposed south of Pyongyang.
(Seoul-Yonhap News) Lee Kwi-won - A proposal is drawing keen attention, which says that, if N. Korean nuclear problem turns for the worst, No Flying Zone could be imposed on N. Korean territory.
The proposal has been made by Professor A(anonymized) from Staff University(?) under DoD, who attended the 46th Annual International Studies Meeting, held in Hawaii at the beginning of this month.
Dr. Cho Sung-ryol at the Institute for International Affairs Research, who attended the meeting, said on (Mar.) 13th that Professor A, who has good inside knowledge of DoD, commented that some DoD officials are studying a proposal to impose a No Flying Zone south of Pyongyang.
This proposal of setting up No Flying Zone is akin to the one imposed on Iraq following U.N. Security Council Resolution after the Gulf War I in '91. It aims to shoot down N. Korean planes violating the No Flying Zone.
According to Professor A, while DoD agrees with the principle of peaceful resolution of N. Korean nuclear problem, they are studying the proposal if the worst case scenario develops and they are asked to submit it as one of options.
Dr. Cho concluded that such a remark by Professor A is "way too premature while international communities are trying hard to resolve the issue in a peaceful and diplomatic manner."
However, he also said, "They could show interests in imposing No Flying Zone instead of preemptive attack because it would be practically difficult to seek out and destroy N. Korean nuclear weapons if N. Korea did possess them." No Flying Zone Might be Imposed, if N. Korean Situation Deteriorates
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DAMNNN hey North Korea list you slipping I expect picture from Team America reset on thread Number two
Let see restrict airspace does this newspaper know something that we don't know HMMMMM
We should have a rule any photo of Kim in Team America should be post it like Ann Coulter rule
DAMNNN hey North Korea list you slipping I expect picture from Team America reset on thread Number two
Let see restrict airspace does this newspaper know something that we don't know HMMMMM
We should have a rule any photo of Kim in Team America should be post it like Ann Coulter rule
LMAO
MOAB
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"... why not just attack North Korea? "
NO OIL
" Dirty rotten commies!"
Whay don't they impose a nation-wide No-Fly on NK with air travel permitted to certain altitudes and speeds to limit the types of aircraft that can still transit their airspace. Example: No flying above 5k feet and no faster than 200mph. That should limit NK flight operations to just helicopters and small, slow airplanes.
It's called calling their bet. Either they fold their hand, or back-up their continual war bluster with real war, in which case they get destroyed. I like it as an eventual step if we're ever going to resolve this situation.
"Yes......at low tide the mudflat went out at least a quarter mile to the channel that made the Inchon landing so difficult and risky. I spent 2 days there.....I ran the ER at Camp Casey for a year otherwise....2d Div."
"Inch'on promised to be a unique amphibious operation-certainly one very difficult to conduct because of natural conditions. Tides in the restricted waters of the channel and the harbor have a maximum range of more than 31 feet. A few instances of an extreme 33-foot tide have been reported. Some of the World War II landing craft that were to be used in making the landing required 23 feet of tide to clear the mud flats, and the LST's (Landing Ship, Tank) required 29 feet of tide-a favorable condition that prevailed only once a month over a period of three or four days."
BTW, I was about three miles offshore when the ROK made their amphibious landing at Quin'on, Vn. That was '66, maybe '67. What a sight to see. All VC activity in the area ceased immediately.
I can't agree.
The Korean DMZ is the most heavily mined and fortified area on earth. The NK forces might be able to attack in 8 minutes, but attacking doesn't mean advancing. Cruise missiles and air assets from carriers and bases in Korea and Japan would be available within minutes, and would make life hell for any advancing forces. The NK divisions in the open terrain of central Korea would be horribly slaughtered from the air.
My dad was born in 1939 as well and served as an MP in the air force...All I know for certain is that he had to get the OK from the USAF to be issued a Korean Vet License plate, and he got it. If I remeber correctly, his job had something to do with B29's
Well, that just increases the mystery. He was only 14 years old when the Armistice was signed too.
A war with N. Korea is such a last resort that the circumstances playing out to cause such to happen are not even on the table right now (Outside of an invasion of South Korea by North Korea - which just doesn't seem plausible).
The death North Korea could inflict on South Korea would be tremendous - It is simply an end to an equation the GWB Administration will do all to avoid (and smartly).
"Either No Flying Zone could trigger serious military conflict, though"
I have wondered what DPRK's target priority in use of nukes would be - american/(ROK) military areas in rok, japan or okinawa, or civilian areas such as seoul or osaka, etc. Presumably they still haven't got their ICBM tech down for hitting the west coast...I don't konw if pearl harbor is in reach or not.
It is simply an end to an equation the GWB Administration will do all to avoid (and smartly)."
The human element you describe is in addition to what a couple of well-placed nukes could do to the japanese and korean economies, and thus to the world economy as a whole. As much as one can argue against globalism, the US *IS* tied to the other large markets far too much to come out of something without severe shocks here, possibly far worse than 9/11 depending on the action and targets.
This, of course, assumes the regional war stops there.
Obviously there are covert efforts to remove Kim, unless anyone believes that train container explosion last year was an accident. That is the only way I can see this matter resolving quietly.
You have it exactly right - While the military option is always there for us to use if absolutely necessary it is not foreseeable when it comes to North Korea -
All problems do not have the same solution - This logic goes right along with the WOT - Not all problems within the WOT will have the same solutions and definitely for North Korea the military solution at this point is not even being considered (nor should it be).
even on the table right now (Outside of an invasion of South Korea by North Korea - which just doesn't seem plausible).
The death North Korea could inflict on South Korea would be tremendous - It is simply an end to an equation the GWB Administration will do all to avoid (and smartly).
and well we're waiting and avoiding war, NK is smuggling Nukes into our cities disguised as Chinese refigerators and machine tools. I don't think so.
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