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To: EternalVigilance

I was able to see past the false teaching of this group all along, really. Unfortunately, my brother wasn't for a long time, and they screwed him up pretty good too.

But that was decades ago...both my parents are gone. So it's ancient history...water under the bridge.



LOL-- with 8 people dead and four injured from an obvious maniac, you give us the background of a church's teachings as it relates to your youth. Next, will you give the dramatic wars leading up to the Augsburg Treaty as how it relates to your bowel obstruction in 1997.

False teachings? 11 victims and one suicide and you're spouting some horsesh*t about "false teachings" to an audience ranging from atheists to christian zealots to pantheists, all having differing value systems. What is false to you may not be false to them. And I fail to see the connection between a shooter's evil disposition and a church requiring tithing, which happens to fit the description of many lives lived in baptist, lutheran, anglican, and catholic homes.

STM, you have a disconnect and wish to vent on a thread that at last reading has nothing to do with you. And please don't push it off as background information not readily reported by the MSM. What the hell does that mean? Sorry the victims could not accomadate your wishes for a sit-down on your early childhood trauma as per their church. They're dead or holding onto their dear lives. People died at the hands of a perp that knew they had no weapons.

And if you don't know why I'm pissed, consider that as the Twin Towers fell, a comment on how Cantor Fitzgerald screwed you back in 1982 would be extremely inappropriate under any circumstance as well. Have some respect for the victims, the families, the widows, and the orphaned. If you wish to start a thread on your traumatized youth in some church, write it and file it under vanity --BTW welcome to the club.

Flame is lowered. Spleen is vented. We're still friends.


311 posted on 03/12/2005 7:08:52 PM PST by sully777 (It's like my momma always said, "Two wrongs don't make a right but two Wrights make an airplane.")
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To: sully777

Was the teaching of Jim Jones pertinent? How about the guy in Waco?

This is why I pursued that angle.

From the news I've seen I don't have any reason to believe that their teaching had anything to do with this guy whacking out, but when you're dealing with religious organizations, that's always a possibility.

So, I don't regret posting what I did at all, in spite of your venting.

But, in any case, I don't take offense at your opinion. You're entitled to it.

I offered up prayer for the victims, and I continue to do so.


312 posted on 03/12/2005 7:17:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (You can't negotiate or compromise with Nazis, Islamists or Liberals...All you can do is crush them..)
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To: sully777; EternalVigilance
Sorry to disagree (while acknowledging your Jim Robinson-given right to vent), but I am quite interested in some personal experience with this particular church. There does not appear to be a church web site, so from my vantage point here in the east this is good stuff.

And I would trust a Freeper's personal account more than one from the MSM.

318 posted on 03/12/2005 7:29:34 PM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: sully777

"Flame is lowered. Spleen is vented. We're still friends."

what a jerk


416 posted on 03/14/2005 9:13:35 AM PST by monday
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