[squirt-gun]

Europe in general, and France and Germany in particular, are heading for oblivion.

Germany purged itself of militant nationalism after WWII but in the process purged itself of rational thought as well.

A nation that gave the world so much of the arts, science, and literature had gotten emeshed in the hell of Naziism...and coming out of this mess emerged as just a pathetic socialistic wreck.

[CyberAnt]

I think Europe is in real trouble - France alone has a 10% Muslim population - we only have 1-2%.

The Muslims in the UK are a huge force also. This is going to get ugly.

[shezza]

Europe in general, and France and Germany in particular, are heading for oblivion.

They're already bordering on irrelevant. That's what has them squawking for attention and being opportunistic obstructionists in the first place.

[wrathof59]

Germany purged itself of militant nationalism after WWII but in the process purged itself of rational thought as well."

Not really accurate, there were no German men left after WWII, the country had to import Turkmen to do mens' work