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To: The Lumster
There is no scriptural basis for believing this.

Really? How about "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

If Christians stop being able to pray for one another and love one another when they are separated by physical death, I'd say death has quite a sting, and the grave has quite a victory.

What I said was we need no additional allies in Heaven. Jesus is our mediator, not any dead saints

"You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God ... have you not read what was said to you by God, 'I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living."--Mt 22:29,31,32

If you call my brothers and sisters in heaven "dead," you are calling Jesus a liar.

92 posted on 03/12/2005 5:42:53 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
If Christians stop being able to pray for one another and love one another when they are separated by physical death, I'd say death has quite a sting, and the grave has quite a victory.

BINGO! It means that Christ did not conquer death by his Sacrifice. It means that Christ's Passion and Death was insufficient.

...'I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

And that was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay after the physical deaths of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

101 posted on 03/12/2005 8:25:07 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: Campion

Well, Jesus refered to them as sleeping but there is still no scriptural basis for praying to them and there is certainly no need at that point to pray for them.


106 posted on 03/14/2005 8:34:54 AM PST by The Lumster
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