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To: DevSix; marty60
"Who knows? (Certainly you don't) - The fact is all sorts of things could have been in those "supposed" caravans leaving Iraq (a war was coming and it does make sense for people to try and get all sorts of valuable items out of the Country beforehand). "

Here is an individual who certainly know more than you, marty60 or myself:

"Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs" http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10111

also published at:
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030820-081256-6822r.htm

The man who wrote these articles: "General Ion Mihai Pacepa is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc"


We have not found any residuals to an "active" WMD program. That is the bottom line



Really? I find that interesting that you bring this up....so if there were no WMDs how did Saddam use them on his own people? Don't you remember the pics of those people laying in the street? "Have War Critics Even Read the Duelfer Report? The Saddam regime was an imminent threat" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244773/posts "While no facilities were found producing chemical or biological agents on a large scale, many clandestine laboratories operating under the Iraqi Intelligence Services were found to be engaged in small-scale production of chemical nerve agents, sulfur mustard, nitrogen mustard, ricin, aflatoxin, and other unspecified biological agents. These laboratories were also evaluating whether various poisons would change the texture, smell or appearance of foodstuffs. These aspects of the ISG report have been ignored by the pundits and press.... The chemical section reports that the M16 Directorate "had a plan to produce and weaponize nitrogen mustard in rifle grenades and a plan to bottle sarin and sulfur mustard.... The major threat posed by Iraq, in my opinion, was the support it gave to terrorists in general, and its own terrorist activity.... "


What about this?
"ISGvol2 illegal nuclear enrichment equipment that could have been turned over to UN"





"ISGvol2 illegal nuclear enrichment equipment that could have been turned over to UN"

"perfectly legal perfume bottles at chemical weapons plant to be used for sarin warheads."


"Al Muthanna after Desert Storm"




"Al Muthanna after Desert Storm"

"Al Muthanna after Desert Storm"

" so_called dual use bioweapons equipment"



"so_called dual use bioweapons equipment v2 good for making powder anthrax."


" so_called dual use bioweapons equipment v3 bio reactor for making animal vaccines and biowarheads"
more pics at: http://www.scottmalensek.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=248&st=0&#entry742

Also, what about the mortar shells with sarin gas that were found over there?
84 posted on 03/12/2005 5:29:18 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Really? I find that interesting that you bring this up....so if there were no WMDs how did Saddam use them on his own people?

We are missing each other here - In that I was talking about Saddam with regard to any "new / active" WMD program -

We are all well aware of the WMD program Saddam had in the late 80's - This is common knowledge. In fact us (along with the UN) document much of these WMD's - In fact we destroyed much of them via documented efforts -

However all of these older WMD's were never accounted for - Though there are plenty of reasonable observations as to why not - Many were possibly destroyed during the 91 Gulf War (we hit many sites where these type of weapons were believed to be kept).

Saddam probably destroyed large segments of these himself shortly after the war in trying to avoid UN Sanctions, etc, etc -

However, going into Iraq in 2003 we expected to find an active WMD program within Iraq - This we have not found.

85 posted on 03/12/2005 6:26:52 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I go back to my original question. IF Saddamn had destroyed the WMD's(or we did), WHY would he pay millions of $$ in bribes to get a clean bill of health from the U.N.?
86 posted on 03/12/2005 6:33:19 PM PST by marty60
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