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You have a registration date of Nov 1. Perhaps you are some sort of DU troll?

Ahh - when one can't deal with facts and reality they run to the ad hominem attacks -

The fact is you keep linking to Newsmax and Jewishworldreview (to fine sources at times) but in no way do these links show any proof of an active WMD program going on within Iraq (it talks about the "what if's") -

I have simply stated the reality of the situation we have found on the ground - (if you don't like it, fine, but you can have your own opinion...but not your own facts).

Again, for you to insist that an active WMD program was going on within Iraq is also suggesting GWB, Rumsfeld and Cheney have all lied to America when they have said we have not found the WMD's we expected to fine in Iraq.

Now mind you, they didn't say this right way. It took more than a year for them to come to these honest conclusions (they are honest men). They allowed very complex hex operations to take place via our military. Our military has done an excellent job regarding the hunt for WMD's -

The conclusion has basically been while it doesn't appear an active WMD program was going on....there is no doubt Saddam had all the capabilities to on short notice start up the process of producing them. But did he have the stock piles we assumed he would have (the SLAM DUNK that CIA Director Tenet said)...NO.

I can only say again that removing Saddam was much more than just the WMD equation. The World is safer because he is gone. No one being intellectually honest can deny this.

However one should not get into the business of moving the goal posts when information doesn't turn up like expected. Just as some wish to do with the WMD issue (they aren't in Iraq, they were moved to Syria, they aren't in Syria, they were moved to Iran, they aren't in Iran, they were moved to you name the Country).

This type of reasoning is what Democrats do. Not serious adults.

As for Saddam's late 80's WMD's (which we all are aware of) - we certainly know much of these were destroyed. The UN with U.S. personal took part in destroying these! - We know we destroyed some via the first Gulf War from the air - How much?? - We don't know that - In fact we don't even know how accurate our Intel was on the exact amounts of late 80's WMD Saddam had - It was nothing more than a CIA estimate -

Are you going to sit here and try and say that the CIA Intel on the Middle East (or for that matter even Easter Europe) has been all that accurate....or something to bank on?? - Please.

Ahh, now you're shifting your position yet again. Claiming that those links were only newsmax and jewishworldreview. Did you miss the WSJ? What about those pictures right and text from the Duelfer report? Whoops, you missed those as well.

Then you twist the argument from saying that there's no evidence of any active WMD programs, to your claim that I'm calling Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld a liar because they did not find WMDs.

You did this because I posted the following (in response to your repeated ficticious claim: "there are no residuals of any active WMD program in Iraq to have been moved"):

"Have War Critics Even Read the Duelfer Report? The Saddam regime was an imminent threat"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1244773/posts

"While no facilities were found producing chemical or biological agents on a large scale, many clandestine laboratories operating under the Iraqi Intelligence Services were found to be engaged in small-scale production of chemical nerve agents, sulfur mustard, nitrogen mustard, ricin, aflatoxin, and other unspecified biological agents. These laboratories were also evaluating whether various poisons would change the texture, smell or appearance of foodstuffs. These aspects of the ISG report have been ignored by the pundits and press...."

"However one should not get into the business of moving the goal posts when information doesn't turn up like expected. Just as some wish to do with the WMD issue (they aren't in Iraq, they were moved to Syria, they aren't in Syria, they were moved to Iran, they aren't in Iran, they were moved to you name the Country)."

Here we go again with your ridiculous "moving the goalpost" argument. Any idiot knows how long it took for us to invade. Not much of a "surprise", is there? How naive are you to think that these illicit weapons couldn't possibly be moved out of the country with Putin's help? "2 Russian generals given awards in Iraq on war eve" http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041029-110322-3343r.htm "Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms" http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm You are also naive for believing that somehow Saddam destroyed his weapons after the first gulf war to comply with the UN. Finally, for a laugh I'm going to post your FReepmail here for all to see: ----------- Re: Saddam's $2m offer to WMD inspector From DevSix | 03/13/2005 8:18:03 PM CST read Listen Bud if you can't handle reality that is your problem - The notion that you keep linking to what others say is of little concern to me. Have you operated in the ME? - I have - I currently work in the security industry and have been to Iraq twice in the last 18 months. You don't know what you are talking about. And your assertion that al Qeade is strong and with sleeper cells in the U.S. is simply off base. They are on the run (you haven't a clue). While sure they want to hit us again the notion for you to act as if there is a gurantee of sleeper cells here in the state is simply childish foolishness while trying to act "smart" - Let the operators handle things - You are the "sky is falling" type that we don't need. ---------------------- You've totally discredited yourself by asserting that there are no sleeper cells in the US. LOL what a riot!!! Your statments that "Ive been to the ME and you don't know what you're talking about" hold as much credibility with me as John Kerry trying to tell me about Vietnam.