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To: unlearner
About a week ago on their regular broadcast, Paul Harvey or his son (neither of whom is of the catholic persuasion) recounted the true story of the Sisters of Loretto in Santa Fe who needed a staircase to the choir loft, and there wasn't enough room for a regular one.

The sisters made a novena to St. Joseph and an old man showed up with a donkey and built them a beautiful spiral staircase with pegs and disappeared without asking for any money. They cannot identify the source of the hardwood that he used.

The staircase still exists after about 100 years and is now privately owned.

I found the website from where he could have read the story practically ver batim.

I also found an atheist website that shot holes in the story.

You can look it all up on the net if you want to think out of your box a little.

I decided if it was all right for the Sisters of Loretto of Santa Fe to ask St. Joseph for help 100 year ago, far be it from me to pooh pooh it just because it isn't explicitly in the bible.

I thought about posting the story in the religion section but opted not to throw pearls before swine. I hope I have not thrown any of my pearls to you. If so, please return them to me unblemished and we'll call it a draw.

250 posted on 03/14/2005 8:25:06 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
It is not because it is not in the Bible but because it is against the teachings of the Bible.

The Bible warns of false signs and miracles which lead people away from worshiping the true and living God.

You may see a man enter the future temple of Jerusalem and proclaim he is Christ and God. You may witness amazing miracles that seem to back up his claim too. But this man is called the "man of sin" or Antichrist.

God warns that those who reject the love of the truth as revealed in scripture will be given over to delusion so that they will believe the lie. (See 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 and Matthew 24:24.)
251 posted on 03/14/2005 11:36:52 AM PST by unlearner
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To: Aliska

"I decided if it was all right for the Sisters of Loretto of Santa Fe to ask St. Joseph for help 100 year ago, far be it from me to pooh pooh it just because it isn't explicitly in the bible."

You make several errors in reasoning.

1. Just because the Bible does not list you every single instance of every single possible opportunity of doing wrong, does not thereby give you endorsement by God to sin. ""But Mommy, why are you mad? You said not to paint the walls red. I did'nt, I painted the floor!"
2. Just because the Bible records something, does not mean it always endorses it. Some acts recorded in Scripture are evil. So too, just because these Sisters did something, does NOT give YOU the authority to disregard God's Word. They were wrong, they gave you the wrong example, and you learn that ONLY from the Bible, which is God's inspired revelation.

2. The Bible DOES expressly state that the ONLY mediator between you and the Father is Jesus, not Joseph. You cannot get to the Father through Joseph or Mary, only through Jesus, through praying to Him.

3. The Bible DOES expressly teach that only Jesus was sinless. No one else is, no not one, not Joseph or Mary. They too needed a Savior. They are humans, and not God. They are not omnipotent, not omniscient, not omnipresent.

4. The Bible expressly says "Thou shalt have NO other Gods before Me." It says we are to ask HIM, not others who we elevate to a status where WE think they have power, when in GOD'S determination, they don't have that power. HE is God, not them.

5. The Bible also expressly states there are counterfeits, liars, deceivers, wolves, demonic kingdoms wishing to counteract every real and true act. When you read Scripture, you find God gives discernment through His Word alone. His Word is the means through which the Holy Spirit operates. He does NOT work outside of that or contrary to that.

6. It is not a casual matter, as you indicate, but very serious. A Christian is to be taught the Word, stay in fellowship, grow in faith through the Word, and put to death these false doctrines of the sinful nature which still want to rebel against our Savior. You do not want out too late that you are in a group with beliefs contrary to Scripture. It is a matter of eternal importance. They will tell you they are fine, but YOU are accountable to read the Word, and compare what they saya with the truth of Scripture. Jesus is the Truth, He died for you, loves you, and wants you praying to Him. He even tells us the Spirit prays in us with words we can't even understand. He Himself is our constant Intercessor. ALL of Scripture points us to HIM, not man.


259 posted on 03/15/2005 1:53:24 AM PST by gentlestrength (.)
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