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| 11 March 2005
| John Leyden
Posted on 03/11/2005 10:56:57 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: Dominic Harr
So Java isn't the problem. If you choose to install anything on your machine, no one can protect you.Beware of "close window" buttons.
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posted on
03/11/2005 11:46:59 AM PST
by
D Rider
To: WellThoughtOut
There are architectural reasons Windows is more vulnerable.....than Unix or Linux..... nothing is invulnerable...but all the hackers are busy working on windows...its such an easy target.
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posted on
03/11/2005 11:49:50 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
To: D Rider
Always hit the 'x' in the top corner, in my opinion.
Or use the task manager, if you're really paranoid!
To: ShadowAce
This is also why I don't have any semblance of IE on my home computer.There's no way to NOT have it if you run Windows. Of course, you could be a Mac or Linux person.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:06:58 PM PST
by
numberonepal
(Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
To: ShadowAce
Thereafter, if victims allow the packages to install If you allow something to install, you are not a "victim".
To: El Gran Salseron
All of you preaching the wonders of Firefox now have egg all over your faces!You notice though, that even with Firefox, it's IE that is the vector for this attack. Also, those of us on non-windows platforms are similarly not quite as vulnerable to this attack.
Linux is the ultimate windows service pack.
Nothing is perfect, and I don't claim otherwise, but just about anything is a better alternative to IE.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:14:26 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
To: thoughtomator
If you have Windows, IE is on your computer whether you like it or not. Bring up the Start Menu, choose Run, and type "iexplore". It's there, and you can't get rid of it without changing the OS.Of course. It's built into the OS. You manually try to get rid of the shortcuts, and the executable, you screw up part of the Windows installation, and Windows becomes unreliable.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:16:53 PM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
To: BigSkyFreeper
Windows becomes unreliable... good joke!
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:18:30 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(I believe in the power of free markets to do good)
To: ShadowAce
Opera - it's been my Windows & Linux browser for years.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:18:56 PM PST
by
mpreston
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I meant to drop you a note and forgot about it... regarding IE, somewhere ( if I saved the link, I can't locate the bloody thing ) I read that the *latest* service packs feature an option for uninstalling it. There is another route, and please note-- I have not tried this, nor do I recommend anyone else try it without a full, current backup-- better safe than sorry:
Removes all versions of Internet Explorer from all versions of Windows 9x in 8 different languages! - INSANE!!
http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html
I SAY AGAIN- haven't tried it, for informational purposes only, proceed at your own risk. You have been warned.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:19:31 PM PST
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: ShadowAce; All
I'm confused.
So, if you have sun java on your computer it allowing malware in? or it is malware?
It's on my computer now and I think it came in when trying to install a program from usps with a stamp program, that still won't work right.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:19:37 PM PST
by
lil'bit
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:21:15 PM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
To: lil'bit
So, if you have sun java on your computer it allowing malware in?Yep.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:22:45 PM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
To: Donaeus
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:23:33 PM PST
by
Donaeus
(Pray for the return of Spc. Matt Maupin MIA, from Iraq since April 9, 2004)
To: lil'bit
So, if you have sun java on your computer it allowing malware in? or it is malware? No, and no.
If you have Java on your machine, it can *ask* you if you want to install malware.
Java is nearly the perfect online technology, by default it can't touch your desktop without your explicit approval.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"JAVA as an entry point"
Java applets have always been an entry point, this is no surprise. No one s/b running with Java enabled,, turn it on only for needed websites like moving weather maps etc.
In Mozilla or Netscape genre browsers, edit preferences, advanced, it is right there.
In IE it is harder to find, in keeping with company policy.
Internet options, security, custom and select disable java.
To: lil'bit
"if you have sun java on your computer it allowing malware in? or it is malware?"
Java is a necessary program. The problem is that Java is composed of javascript which is used all the time(ie to "select" things on web pages) and Java applets-(little programs actually) that might generate a moving weather map for example. One can run with javascirpt enabled but should not be running with "Java" enabled. If you go to a page and it needs Java, it will tell you it needs it and you can turn it on and reload the page. See my other posting for instructions.
To: lil'bit
Removing Java from you computer is the same as removing the tires from your car to prevent flat tires. Java is a fundamental tool of a computer. Disable it if you want, but don't remove it.
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posted on
03/11/2005 12:45:17 PM PST
by
Drango
(Stolen from another FReeper)
To: ShadowAce
Somebody better tell that darned fox to stop kicking its droppings out of the sandbox!
<snicker> Java sand box...ha! Yeah, right.
Thanks again Sun!
If you don't need Java, uninstall it. And of course, to be safer, browse trusted domains only.
--
Devoted Opera user since 1999.
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
03/11/2005 1:23:02 PM PST
by
Taxman
(So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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