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Can China trigger an economic bomb on the US?
March 11, 2005 | Ice FLyer

Posted on 03/11/2005 9:21:43 AM PST by ICE-FLYER

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To: ICE-FLYER

This wouldn't be done by asking for the bonds to be disembursed. They would just stop buying new bonds. Thus they would draw down over a 30 year period. The fact is, even at our low interest rate of return on these bonds, and a very high yearly rate of growth in China, the Chinese feel these are good investment and they buy. Much to the dismay of Soros I might add.


21 posted on 03/11/2005 9:42:54 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: frgoff

Do you think China just wishes the goods they sell us up out of thin air.

No, but you cant ignore other countries that would replace our demand. Such as the US being passed up by China as Japans biggest trading partner. Its nice to be confident it suicide to be arrogant.


22 posted on 03/11/2005 9:42:57 AM PST by Fyscat
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To: frgoff

Just for kicks, next time you buy something that says "Made in China" on the box, continue reading to the name and address of the manufacturer.


23 posted on 03/11/2005 9:45:18 AM PST by NY-YANK
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To: Fyscat

We may no longer manufacture the kind of garbage we buy from there, but dozens of other nations do. For a few cents more a new source is available. China already has unemployment problems, messing with us economically or militarily would be a disaster for them. I say "Bring em on".


24 posted on 03/11/2005 9:45:21 AM PST by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: Fyscat

Let me see if I have your argument straight. It's dangerous for the U.S. to buy Chinese goods, but if we don't, China will sell them anyway?


25 posted on 03/11/2005 9:45:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Fyscat
Think if everything disappeared from them. massive shortages from tooth brushes to whatever

Sounds like a gold mine for American dentists.

26 posted on 03/11/2005 9:47:47 AM PST by syriacus (Was Margaret Hassan kidnapped because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to aid Iraqis?)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Fine they want to play that way print 1.6 new and give it to them.


27 posted on 03/11/2005 9:48:16 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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To: RightWhale; ICE-FLYER
The bonds and notes are due on maturity. China can attempt to turn them in earlier, but Treasury won't accept them. Maybe they can be traded, but the market would want a hefty discount

I hereby volunteer to buy the $1.6 Trillion in Treasuries that China owns for the price of every last cent of my net worth and the cash worth of my entire line of credit.

28 posted on 03/11/2005 9:50:46 AM PST by Polybius
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To: 1rudeboy

More or less, yes. I'm not talking about a over night thing. Looking into the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years. Look at there improved relations with Russia, Iran Pakastan etc. Look at thier expanding military bases into the middle east. Were king of the hill and they are looking to nock us off


30 posted on 03/11/2005 9:53:25 AM PST by Fyscat
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To: ICE-FLYER; All

At some point China will keep what they got but use the trade dollars we send to them to own American listed companies plus Panama canals, IBM's PC business and pick up some weaponry here and there.


31 posted on 03/11/2005 9:57:24 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: Fudd

"Someone set us up the bomb!"


LOL! "Make your time!"


32 posted on 03/11/2005 9:58:17 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: TalonDJ
A wise saying goes something like, "Owe someone 100 bucks and he controls you. Owe someone a million bucks and you control him."

It is reported Michael Jackson owes Bank of America 350 million bucks.

33 posted on 03/11/2005 10:06:36 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ICE-FLYER
Can China trigger an economic bomb on the US.....

not without killing itself

34 posted on 03/11/2005 10:11:54 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Shortest answer: NOTHING----Been here before, The Japanese tried to take it out in real estate a couple decades ago and got bit hard, for example. We have the power to buy---the Chicoms have the skill to make cheapass stuff. That's a good way to leave it until they screw up, which will happen.


35 posted on 03/11/2005 10:14:39 AM PST by cherokee1
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To: Fyscat

Man, that was great. I wish I knew what the hell you were saying.


36 posted on 03/11/2005 10:19:22 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: timtoews5292004

"For a eye opening picture of the impact of China on the world and US economies every freeper should read China Inc, By Ted Fishman."

Could you give us the one-paragraph FReepers digest version?


37 posted on 03/11/2005 10:21:49 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

you'll figure it out soon enough.


38 posted on 03/11/2005 10:22:57 AM PST by Fyscat
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To: ICE-FLYER

I'd like to observe that, according to the rants of my ultralib cousin, China owns the US because of this. The DUmmies believe the US can be crushed in a moments notice by calling in the "IOUs."

I don't know much about the economics of it, but my response was basically, "If they want to collect, and in doing so in brings down America, then tell them all they have to do is come and collect it."

Sounded good to me.


39 posted on 03/11/2005 10:31:34 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Fyscat

Maybe. It hurts my brain. I went into public relations because I hate math.


40 posted on 03/11/2005 10:32:41 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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