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To: JOE43270
JOE43270 writes: He flew the missions and spent the time as a POW. As a U.S. Air Force veteran, I won't forget any of that.

Yes, McCain served his country. No one can take that from him. But let's face it. Benedict Arnold served his country too. Indeed, Arnold's military record was far more impressive than McCain's.

Benedict Arnold led the Continental Army to many victories; he exhausted his personal fortune to pay his troops; he received serious wounds that crippled him for life.

But, in the end, he turned traitor.

52 posted on 03/11/2005 6:23:28 PM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

You should read all of what I wrote so people including you won't be taking me out of context. I also said I wish he wasn't in congress. I've not been thrilled with him at all.


54 posted on 03/12/2005 2:33:34 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Richard Poe
Yes. But we can't set Benedict Arnold's pre-betrayal record up as a standard of military service. He was really a great soldier, albeit one with bad luck. He made an incredible effort in the Canadian campaign (Montreal?) against not only stronger enemy forces but horrible cold. He lost that battle through no fault of his own.

Then, although he held no command in the battle, he grabbed some troops who were standing around in the battle of Saratoga and led them into the battle at the critical time, winning the battle. Some military historians consider Saratoga to be the "decisive" battle of the Revolutionary War. I don't agree, but it seems important.

In fact, it was this tremendous drive, energy, and sacrifice, combined with little recognition and being treated like a failure, that led him to betray his country. Not that these things (or anything) justify such a heinous act---they do not.

It just seems ironic to me that setting (the pre-traitorous) Benedict Arnold as a standard for a soldier would be a high standard indeed.
71 posted on 03/20/2005 9:42:49 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage---Thucydities)
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