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NASA rushes plan to send humans to moon, Mars, despite doubts
Knight Ridder ^ | 2.21.05

Posted on 03/10/2005 12:18:15 PM PST by ambrose

Posted on Mon, Feb. 21, 2005

• On the Web | NASA: The Vision for Space Exploration

NASA rushes plan to send humans to moon, Mars, despite doubts

By ROBERT S. BOYD

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - NASA is racing to carry out President Bush's costly vision of sending humans back to the moon and then on to Mars - despite the federal budget squeeze and doubts in Congress and the scientific community about the plan's wisdom.

Even some of the project's allies are balking at its price tag and headlong pace.

NASA is "trying to do too much at once," said Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Science Committee, a strong supporter of the space agency. He protested that NASA is "barreling ahead" even though Congress "has never endorsed - in fact, never even discussed - the vision."

"I think NASA is headed for a potential train wreck," warned Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn., the committee's senior Democrat, who worried that the Moon-Mars plan is gobbling up funds for other scientific ventures.

Even some space agency officials are expressing concern. The cost and complexities of the Moon-Mars project make this "a time for sobering up," Michael Meyer, NASA's lead scientist for Mars exploration, told a committee of the National Academy of Sciences earlier this month.

It's been a little over a year since Bush announced "The President's Vision for U.S. Space Exploration," but the space agency has already awarded 118 preliminary contracts for the project. It's requesting fresh ideas from industry and universities in order to launch a large new spaceship, called the Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), three years from now.

The $15 billion CEV is supposed to take over from today's aging fleet of space shuttles and carry astronauts "to the moon, Mars and beyond," as NASA officials like to say.

By this summer, two aerospace teams will be chosen to construct competing prototypes of the CEV. A final version will by chosen by the end of 2006, and the first unmanned flight is scheduled for 2008.

"To meet the president's timeline, we need to start technology development now," said Craig Steidle, a retired admiral who heads the agency's Exploration Systems Directorate. "There is urgency in the president's agenda."

The administration has asked Congress for $3.2 billion for the second year of the Moon-Mars project. That's a 23 percent increase from its first-year kitty of $2.6 billion. Bush wants total NASA spending to grow just 2 percent to $16.5 billion for the 2006 fiscal year, so other NASA programs are getting cut.

The project enjoys a White House promise of increasing funds, totaling $20.3 billion over the next five years (through fiscal year 2010). Outlays surge thereafter, and NASA estimates that it will spend $100 billion on the project through 2020.

"This is an absolute priority on the part of the president," White House Budget Director Joshua Bolten told congressional budgeteers last year. The project also enjoys the powerful support of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, whose Houston district houses NASA's Johnson Space Flight Center.

Meanwhile, scientists worry about the impact of the huge enterprise on other endeavors, such as astronomy, physics and climate change.

The exploration project has already doomed plans to prolong the life of the successful Hubble Space Telescope. A mission to detect Earth-like planets around other stars has been postponed for two years, until 2012.

Some space science missions have been delayed indefinitely, such as one to explore Jupiter's moon, Europa, which might support life beneath its icy surface, and another to study the mysterious "dark energy," a sort of anti-gravity, which is forcing the universe to expand.

The National Academy of Sciences has called dark energy the most important question in physics and astronomy today. The Europa mission was the top priority of the astronomical community's 10-year plan adopted in 2001.

A panel of academy experts, headed by Yale University astronomer Megan Urry, sent a letter to NASA, dated Feb. 14, stating that "the long-term impact (of the Moon-Mars project) on astronomy and astrophysics is not entirely clear, but short-term changes are already having an effect, and there are community concerns that serious problems lie ahead."

In an analysis of Bush's science budget, the American Association for the Advancement of Science said the president's vision will "require steep cuts in aeronautics and earth science funding and the cancellation of a proposed Hubble servicing mission to pay for NASA's ambitious space exploration plans."

"The goal of sending humans to Mars needs more definition," Meyer, NASA's Mars scientist, told the National Academy committee. "What are humans going to do on Mars? We have to protect Mars. Do we want to send astronauts with all their dead skin cells and bacteria? We don't want to contaminate the planet and replace possible extant life."


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KEYWORDS: mars; nasa
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1 posted on 03/10/2005 12:18:15 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

isn't this off of some old "Honeymooners" episode?


2 posted on 03/10/2005 12:20:39 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: ambrose

"NASA rushes..."

A possibly chilling turn of phrase.


3 posted on 03/10/2005 12:20:42 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: ambrose

"To the moon, Alice!"

4 posted on 03/10/2005 12:21:55 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: coconutt2000

Yes. Absolutely wordsmithed, this article is a hack job.


5 posted on 03/10/2005 12:21:57 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: coconutt2000

Certainly a historically unusual one.


6 posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:07 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: sure_fine

I think the hubble was at best a partial success. If any private parties want to spring for the refueling and support bill, I have yet to hear from it.

Besides, we got a great picture of all the places we won't be able to go for the next hundred years. How many more pictures of that do we want.


7 posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:40 PM PST by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: ambrose

Can we send Hitlery to the moon? I`m getting sick of reading her 180 degree about face politics everyday solely so she can run for President.


8 posted on 03/10/2005 12:24:35 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

The article mainly consists of bitching from people who are seeing their little pet projects cut in favor of this far more worthy endeavor.


9 posted on 03/10/2005 12:25:11 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: donmeaker

"We have to protect Mars. Do we want to send astronauts with all their dead skin cells and bacteria? We don't want to contaminate the planet and replace possible extant life."

I suspect he is the world's expert on the way mars is now and doesnt want to go back to school to how it will be in 20 years.

Rather I think we should first terraform Mars. The atmosphere can easily now be turned to Methane which when frozen is a decent rocket fuel. The large gas planets also have a lot of methane and H2.


10 posted on 03/10/2005 12:25:22 PM PST by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: ambrose

Bush sure cooks up a lot of ways to spend taxpayer money, doesn't he?


11 posted on 03/10/2005 12:26:42 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: ambrose

It's raining gravy out there. Let's go. Start with an Antarctica-like base at the Lunar south pole!
Sunshine, water and mining riches...


12 posted on 03/10/2005 12:27:25 PM PST by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: My2Cents

I always wondered if the name of that sitcom was because they were newlyweds (they didn`t have any kids) or because they drove each other so crazy, they wanted each other to go to the moon... I think it was the latter. Ralph and Alice didn`t seem like newlyweds. "Honey go to the moon"


13 posted on 03/10/2005 12:28:04 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: ambrose

In the late-14th and early-15th Century the most advanced seafaring nation on Earth was China. In 1424, the Emperor outlawed seafaring and henceforth, the exploration of the world was done mostly by the European nations. China became isolationist and its culture didn't advance. Who knows what would have happened in world events if China had not undertaken this policy.

Let's not make the same mistake the Emperor made in 1424... the US is the most advanced spacefaring nation on Earth - let's keep it that way.


14 posted on 03/10/2005 12:29:22 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: ambrose
We haven't been on the moon since December 11th, 1972. I hardly call that 'rushing.'
15 posted on 03/10/2005 12:30:31 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Imaverygooddriver

Don't you think having her on the moon would detract from its
'ROMANTIC QUALITY" for all those conservative couples
out there ?????????


16 posted on 03/10/2005 12:30:35 PM PST by clearsight
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To: Hank Rearden

but this one is soooo good. we need to explore and colonize other worlds. we have an obligation to preserve the human species should Earth ever go bye bye.

gotta strive for something besides food, sex, and Oprah reruns...


17 posted on 03/10/2005 12:32:01 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: donmeaker

How do you propose to start Terraforming ? Most concepts I see need a decent industrial base well beyond Earth Orbit, and most likely, around Saturn, or out in the Inner Cometary Belt, to gather ice, and hard-land large quantities of it on Mars to build up atmospheric volume AND a resevoir of greenhouse gases. Plus, of course, the heat generated by the impact. . .

Venus is by far the more interesting Terraforming prospect: I leave the relatively trivial problem of decreasing the current solar flux on Venus to you as an intellectual exercise (evil grin)


18 posted on 03/10/2005 12:32:49 PM PST by Salgak ((don't mind me, the Orbital Mind Control Lasers are making me write this. . . . FNORD!!))
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To: Hank Rearden

At least Space Exploration has paid back its' investment ten-fold and more. . . few other Government programs have paid off at all, much less as handsomely. . .


19 posted on 03/10/2005 12:34:25 PM PST by Salgak ((don't mind me, the Orbital Mind Control Lasers are making me write this. . . . FNORD!!))
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To: ambrose

We don't want to contaminate the planet and replace possible extant life."

We don't?
I'll bet nutgrass could live there, maybe kudzu too.


20 posted on 03/10/2005 12:35:40 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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