[MadIvan]

I disagree with the esteemed Ms. Noonan. We are on a crusade for the survival of our civilisation - and that means not utopianism, but neutralising countries that wish us ill - the most effective means of neutralisation is to spread liberty, either through pressure or by the point of the sword.

There's nothing Wilsonian about it - it is not spreading liberty for the sake of merely spreading liberty, but for our own safety's sake.

Regards, Ivan

[elhombrelibre]

I've no problem with us - that is the free nations of the world - working towards bringing freedom to the whole world. I just think the pace has to be set in a way that it can be sustained. I have no doubt that the president means for this to happen in the years and generations that it may need. And I believe the president believes it's a goal best achieved by those who will enjoy the benefits. Peggy is picking a fight when there really is nothing to fight about. The president doesn't want to spread democracy in an Utopian scheme. Probably, if she could write his speeches, she would then understand that it's not a Wilsonian goal push forward freedom.

[Truthsearcher]

That's the thing people on the left, and some on the right, like Buchanan, and apparantly Peggy Noonan, is missing.

They think Bush is conducting foreign policy. He's not, he's conducting a war.

[CGVet58]

ping 100% agreement.

[iconoclast]

There's nothing Wilsonian about it - it is not spreading liberty for the sake of merely spreading liberty, but for our own safety's sake.

(Wilson) quickly emerged as a skilled wartime leader by molding public opinion with such optimistic phrases as “a war to make the world safe for democracy” and “a war to end all wars.”

Nothing Wilsonian?

LOL, Ivan ..... not even nice (defensive) try!