Democrats come up short

The Washington Times ^ | March 10, 2005

[Coastal]

Based on their numerous TV appearances on Sunday, Democrats clearly have their Social Security talking points in order. Democrats were very big on accusations and demands, and very light on substance and solutions.

One pervasive Democratic accusation dated back to a 1978 political campaign, when then-House candidate George W. Bush said, "Social Security would go bust in 1988" unless its long-term solvency problems were addressed through personal retirement accounts, according to Sen. Barbara Boxer. "He was wrong then," Mrs. Boxer said on "Face the Nation." The California liberal demanded to know: "Who do you trust on Social Security?" Based on his views over more than a quarter century, Mrs. Boxer concluded: "I think President Bush should not be trusted."

[Fenris6]

I still don't understand: if, as the Dems claim, Social Security is just fine, then why can't I opt out of it? I want the federal retirement perks that our congress-critters use. I'd also like to pass it on to my family, if I die before retirement.

[goldstategop]

Exactly. I don't quite understand why, if their retirement system is good enough for them, its not good enough for the rest of us.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Paleo Conservative]

One pervasive Democratic accusation dated back to a 1978 political campaign, when then-House candidate George W. Bush said, "Social Security would go bust in 1988" unless its long-term solvency problems were addressed through personal retirement accounts, according to Sen. Barbara Boxer. "He was wrong then," Mrs. Boxer said on "Face the Nation."

No, he was not "wrong then"! We had massive Socical Security tax increases imposed in 1983 to patch up Social Security and pass the buck to a later time. Social Security still has problems. Of course now they're even bigger. Just think how much better it would have been if personal retirement accounts had been implemented in 1979 or 1981! Just about all of the baby boomers would have personal retirement accounts with lots of equity.

[JennysCool]

Democrats come up short

Certainly a constant complaint of women.

[CyberAnt]

I cannot believe I am stuck with this lying sack of puke for a Senator.

I'm ashamed to even say I know her. She's a disgrace and she needs to resign.

The person who cannot be trusted with the truth on any subject is Barbara Boxer.

[furquhart]

Well, see, the fact that massive tax increases fixed the program in the 1980's proves that we can do the same again!

For example, if we lifted the cap on Social Security taxes entirely, the costs of the program will exceed taxes in 2025 instead of 2018!

Then, we can raise the combined rate to 15%. That'll buy another five years.

Eventually, sure, Social Security taxes will exceed the total of payrolls, but I think that most Americans will agree that that's a small price to pay for retirement security.

[Paleo Conservative]

Boxer always comes up short.

[Just A Nobody]

"I want the federal retirement perks that our congress-critters use."

Then we have to DEMAND them. Call Congress EVERYDAY, write letters to all the dimwits & the traitor pub's. They keep saying no one wants "private accounts" because they poll 1000 blue staters. They use the term "private" as a fear tactic, when they know they would be personal accounts within the SS system. If WE can't have them, THEY shouldn't have them. Had Congress been paying into the system from the beginning, instead of just the last 20 years, perhaps we would not have a solvency problem.

"I'd also like to pass it on to my family, if I die before retirement"

Ahh, the voice of reason. I have 3 in my family alone that never collected. They died at 44, 53 & 62. All that money went into "the trust" fund. I read the obits one day & found 8 out of 13 had died under the age of 65.

[Rabble]

"Mrs. Boxer concluded: "I think President Bush should not be trusted."

And I think that Mrs. Boxer CANNOT be trusted!

[Rabble]

Well folks, it appears that Mr. Roosevelt's PONZI SCHEME is again in trouble, however Mrs. Boxer will come to the rescue -- Ha, Ha.!

[fella]

Well folks, it appears that Mr. Roosevelt's PONZI SCHEME is again in trouble, however Mrs. Boxer will come to the rescue -- Ha, Ha.!How dare you refer to FDR as if he were merely a common run of the mill con-man when in truth he was consummate Flim-Flam artiest. After all one of his flim-flams is still taking the suckers to the cleaners over 50 years after his death. Now that's a real confidence game. Herman Melville would be proud.

[Kozak]

For example, if we lifted the cap on Social Security taxes entirely, the costs of the program will exceed taxes in 2025 instead of 2018!

Don't kid yourself. It won't work nearly that well. I'm sure I'm not the only person who can do the math and has decided if the caps come off, my hours go down. That will ensure the feds end up with far less of a windfall from trying to screw us then they estimate.

[Salamander]

"Democrats come up short"

So where is Tom Daschle, these days?.....:)

[Alia]

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