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Senator Graham (rankles some over) comments on (president) Lincoln
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Posted on 03/08/2005 12:14:35 PM PST by DixieOklahoma

3/7/2005

GOP senator Graham rankles some over comments on Lincoln

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

Senator Lindsey Graham has ignited a new furor in Washington over comments he made over the weekend referring to his state’s difficulty in “getting over” President Abraham Lincoln, with apparent reference to Lincoln’s role in the civil war and the freeing of American slaves, RAW STORY has learned.

“We don’t do Lincoln Day Dinners in South Carolina,” Senator Graham told a Lincoln Day gathering in Tennessee Saturday. “It’s nothing personal, but it takes awhile to get over things.”

According to a Knoxville News Sentinel article published Sunday, Graham entertained an amicable crowd and joked about his predecessor in the Senate, former Sen. Strom Thurmond.

“In theory, I have 50 more years left in the Senate,” Graham remarked.

The article, titled “GOP senator has unifying message,” was picked up upon by the progressive Washington blog DC Inside Scoop.

The Democratic National Committee said Sen. Graham’s remarks were inappropriate and that they echoed comments made by former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS), which resulted in Lott’s removal as Senate leader.

“Joke or not, this is exactly the type of comment that Trent Lott made when he was deposed as leader,” said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera. “It has no place in public discourse.”

“He should apologize,” Cabrera added.

Sen. Graham’s office was closed and could not be reached for comment Monday evening.

Several Hill offices declined immediate comment, saying they wanted to review Graham’s remarks in full, and that on such a delicate matter, the members in question would have to approve any responses.

Sen. Lott told a 2002 birthday celebration in honor of Sen. Strom Thurmond that he was proud his state supported Thurmond’s pro-segregation 1948 campaign.

“We’re proud of it,” Lott said. “And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over all these years either,” Lott said.

The resulting outcry cost Lott his job as Majority Leader. Lott later apologized, saying racism and segregation were “immoral.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
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To: Noachian
Apparently all Southerners are suppose to forget Lincoln's War of Northern Aggression against the South, because it may upset some Northern Liberals.

BWAHAHAHAHA. "War of Northern Aggression". I jest love that southron sense of humor.

41 posted on 03/08/2005 2:18:28 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Servant of the 9
Only the active combat phase.

To the winner goes the spoils. Even the Greeks have forgiven the Macedonians for kicking their butts....get over it. It's over. Move on. Not one of the participants has been alive for nearly 50 years.
42 posted on 03/08/2005 2:25:22 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Even Robert E Lee called it a Civil War!


43 posted on 03/08/2005 2:26:13 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: Noachian

Let's see here, im alive, I have a job. I am pretty much free to do as I say and please....

seems pretty good to me.


44 posted on 03/08/2005 2:26:19 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: DixieOklahoma
“Joke or not, this is exactly the type of comment that Trent Lott made when he was deposed as leader,” said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera. “It has no place in public discourse.”

Neither did KKK Byrd's remarks about white *iggers, but I still don't here any outrage from the left over that. Or when was the last time they checked out a statement, any statement, from Maxine Waters or Cynthia McKinney? There are no two more racist people in Congress today. And I know they didn't get all bent out of shape when the U-Boat Commander and other fringe whackjobs compared Dubya to Hitler.

This selective outrage of the left is going to, if not already has, turned people away from them. For them to give a pass to these clowns and useful idiots like Ward Churchill, citing free speech, while trying to crucify Laurence Summers and now Lindsay Graham for making offhand remarks meant either in jest or speculation is so blatantly PC it makes me nauseous.

Most people don't care for bigots, but even fewer care for hypocrites. You'd think the RATS would have figured that out by now.

45 posted on 03/08/2005 2:33:48 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Ted Kennedy: Boldly driving a '68 Olds where no '68 Olds had gone before)
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To: Robe

Triple whammy southerner here!


46 posted on 03/08/2005 2:44:51 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: DixieOklahoma

The sad thing is not that the southern GOP is dropping the title of "Lincoln Day Dinner" because they find it insulting to them, but that they insist on substituting "Reagan Day Dinner" as a title. Given what the southern Republicans are doing to the party that is an insult to us.


47 posted on 03/08/2005 2:47:53 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Robe
Even worse, Scotch Blood...

Hold on there.

48 posted on 03/08/2005 2:51:39 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: ambrose
the progressive Washington blog DC Inside Scoop

Have you heard of that? I can't Goggle it.

49 posted on 03/08/2005 2:53:20 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: takbodan; ambrose; Bushforlife

Sherman's strategy ended the war sooner, I think, but I don't know whether or not he went overboard. A case could be made either way. But my point - entirely apart from the morality, or not, of Sherman's strategy - was that the South was ruined for years. That could easily trigger Southern anger toward Abraham Lincoln, who ordered (or at least tolerated) the destruction of their homes, farms, and cities.


50 posted on 03/08/2005 3:55:41 PM PST by Irish Rose (Some people march to the beat of a different drummer. And some people tango!)
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To: Howlin

http://blog.news-record.com/scoopblog/


51 posted on 03/08/2005 4:03:13 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: ambrose

Greensboro?


52 posted on 03/08/2005 4:12:52 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: DixieOklahoma

I've never heard of a Lincoln Day Dinner and I live in New York State. These Demoncrats are nuts.


53 posted on 03/08/2005 4:53:35 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Txsleuth

maybe the senator is trying to score points back home by bashing Lincoln, but continuing to be a rino in the senate?


54 posted on 03/08/2005 7:15:07 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: ambrose
Abe Lincoln in a letter to Jefferson Davis (Confederate president): "Why do you insist on succession? I would free no slave should it save the union"

Jefferson Davis: "Two blue cows and a dose of ramma damma ding dong"
55 posted on 03/08/2005 7:19:24 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: ambrose
I'm a good old rebel



Oh, I'm a good old Rebel, now that's just what I am,
For this "Fair Land of Freedom" I do not give a damn!

I'm glad I fit against it, I only wish we'd won,
And I don't want no pardon for anything I done.

I hates the Constitution, this Great Republic, too,
I hates the Freedman's Buro in uniforms of blue,
I hates the nasty eagle with all his brag and fuss,
The lying, thieving Yankees, I hates 'em wuss and wuss!

I hates the Yankee nation and everything they do,
I hates the Declaration of Independence, too,
I hates the "Glorious Union" , 'tis dripping with our blood,
I hates their striped banner, I fit it all I could.

I followed old Marse Robert for four years, near about,
Got wounded in three places, and starved at P'int Lookout;
I cotched the "roomatism" a'campin' in the snow,
But I killed a chance o' Yankees, and I'd like to kill some mo'.

Three hundred thousand Yankees is stiff in Southern dust!
We got three hundred thousand before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever and Southern steel and shot,
I wish they was three million instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket and fight 'em now no more,
But I ain't a'gonna love 'em, now that is sarten sure;
And I don't want no pardon for what I was and am,
I won't be reconstructed, and I do not care a damn!

(some versions of the song add this verse)

I won't be reconstructed! I'm better now than them,
And for a carpetbagger, I do not give a damn.
So I'm off for the frontier, soon as I can go,
I'll prepare me a weapon and start for Mexico.
56 posted on 03/08/2005 7:27:12 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The sad thing is not that the southern GOP is dropping the title of "Lincoln Day Dinner" because they find it insulting to them, but that they insist on substituting "Reagan Day Dinner" as a title

Given the liberalism of northern republicans, can you blame us?
57 posted on 03/08/2005 7:30:01 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: DixieOklahoma

Actually, I've heard Senator Graham talk before, and one of his themes for his humor is the fact that the people of his State have long memories, and he often jokes about that. I think I once read a quote of his that when he won his House seat he was the first Republican elected there in 140 years, and they hung the last one. I know I have heard other jokes on the South, and it's always done in good humor. No matter how I read the article with this quote, I see nothing racial in it. It is the usual. Dems looking for any reason to create a stink.


58 posted on 03/09/2005 12:27:03 AM PST by passionfruit (I don't understand what I said so here's a man eating chimp with a pancake on it's head)
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To: DixieOklahoma
Given the liberalism of northern republicans, can you blame us?

Ronald Reagan, a Northern Republican, believed in smaller government. The current GOP leadership, overwhelmingly southern, believes in bigger government. Ronald Reagan, a Northern Republican, believed in less intrusive government. The current GOP leadership, overwhelmingly southern, believes in more government intrusion in our lives. Ronald Reagan, a Northern Republican, believed in fiscal responsibility. The current GOP leadership, overwhelmingly southern, believes in massive deficits. Ronald Reagan, a Northern Republican, believed in letting the states and local communities control their schools and court systems. The current GOP leadership, overwhelmingly southern, believes in bringing control to the federal level. It those values of Ronald Reagan, a Northern Republican, are liberal in your eyes. Then I'm a liberal, too.

59 posted on 03/09/2005 3:51:42 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: DixieOklahoma
Good for Graham, and he's absolutely right! State GOP's in the south often do not call their dinner Lincoln Day, and why should they? Lincoln was no conservative, and certainly was no friend of the south.

We call ours Reagan Day instead.

60 posted on 03/09/2005 7:27:09 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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